yo what
RDJ built the house of MCU, but now he has to maintain it as well? The man was in something like 9 movies over 10 years. He did his bit for king and country. But because too much of post-end game had been low quality, gotta bring back ol’ reliable.
Not like pre endgame it was fucking teeming with quality, most of the mcu is watchable once inoffensive, appeal to everyone stuff that’s competently made.
The only movies i have genuinely wanted to rewatch pre endgame are Thor Ragnarok, Infinity war, and maybe Iron man, that’s it, the rest is just not worth revisiting and even iron man if I never see it again I won’t feel like I missed out.
Ragnarok i have watched like 4 times and I could rewatch it again, infinity war is really good too and is worth rewatching, endgame is too much fan service moments but still okay.
For me it’s: Guardians 1 & 2, Iron Man, Homecoming, Winter Soldier, Avengers and the last portion of Endgame
I’ve yet to rewatch Ragnarok, but I probably should.
The soundtrack is just so good.
I can’t wait for the inevitable Klumps/Dr. Doolittle-style Marvel series with RDJ in every role, including fat suits.
I’m not deeply familiar with the lore/canon. Is there any instance in the comics that Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom? If not, is this Marvel getting desperate with their waning popularity by trying to bring back RDJ just to straight up play a different character? That’s a new low.
Dr. Doom has become Iron Man, so there’s that. In this case it might just be same actor two roles. Remember that Doom wears that mask because his face is all fucked up; it’s likely that they could just have RDJ play the role without any Iron Man connections at all.
Update: also there’s this: https://youtu.be/5Jv-HopDBV4?si=052HgQB2WQJhtvRT
Doesn’t seem to me like it would make sense to hire RDJ and then hide him behind a mask for the entire movie.
I’d like to invite you to watch V for vendetta. A good actor can do magic even behind a mask!
Edit: I’m not sure how Downey Jr would perform, just want to point out that a mask alone is not a blocker for a great performance.
You are absolutely correct, I love that movie. The chances of Disney being able to pull off anything even half as good however are basically nonexistent. That would require them to make something where the audience has to think, something risky, something potentially divisive.
Marvel is the epitome of visually impressive, but safe, inclusive movies for all audiences. Even the ones who are on their phones for half the movie.
Sometimes this is exactly what I’m looking for but it’s not really comparable to V for Vendetta.
If Disney spend the big bucks on RDJ they’re gonna want to show him off to draw in audiences.
I agree so much that a simple upvote would be insufficient! That’s the sole purpose of this comment :)
A good actor can do magic even behind a mask!
Dredd is another excellent example.
Doesn’t seem to be Disney’s protocol when it comes to masked characters though. They like showing the faces.
I know little about Marvel, but I guess a Stark from the multiverse may have become Doom instead of Ironman in his timeline.
IIRC, there is a multiverse timeline where Tony becomes Dr. Doom. Considering how they’re really playing into/opening up the multiverse and with Secret Wars also coming, I’m actually really stoked for this.
So it’s more multiverse stuff that they’re desperately trying to claw back from the brink after Jonathon Majors beat the fuck out of his woman and they had to drop their new villain.
Were you really expecting less multiverse stuff after all that setup?
I’d feel better about it if it seemed to be going anywhere…
It blatantly is going somewhere with Avengers: Secret Wars.
Hail Mary pass for the MCU. Seems incredibly dumb to me, but the MCU seems like it’s on its last legs anyway.
Maybe we can lay it to rest alongside Star Wars.
Maybe Incels will finally get laid.
I’m honestly expecting Galactus soon then a sort of hard reset in a few years along with Disney strongarm taking back Spiderman from Sony, if not outright buying Sony studios. Then with all rights in house, building a new MCU from the ground up
Wouldn’t that be too soon? If they do world ending catastrophes too often it starts to lose its impact.
Tbh, I haven’t been following Marvel all that much since Infinity Wars. I’m genuinely asking if it would be too soon or not.
Maybe, idk, it seems they’ve been bouncing from 1 nearly avoided apocalypse to another with incursions etc. since end game. So maybe, I just think it’d be one of the cleaner ways to reintroduce all of the marvel characters now that they have them all again minus full rights to Spidey.
This is the most comicbook thing ever, and you guys should chill out.
Yes, Marvel movies are bad lately, but the Infinity Saga is a masterpiece of cinema (with its very-high highs and mediocre-at-worst lows) that no one but MarvelStudios has been able to pull off. Maybe they can do it again.
Also RDJ is an amazing actor and he will very probably do a brutal job at making us all forget Tony Stark even existed.
Not to mention I find it doubtful we’re going to see his face…like it all. I mean, it’s fucking Doctor Doom.
Dr. Doom has a mask that he never removes so maybe that’s how this will work?
He’s totally going to remove the mask.
As someone who is a bit out of the loop on Marvel since endgame, who are the current Avengers even?
The Avengers remain disbanded.
Young Avengers have started to team up at least.
That’s part of their problem. How do you keep the Avengers going with a different group, or have a new group that’s totally not the Avengers? I’m definitely not a fan of all the multiverse stuff - that’s where I stopped reading the comics and it’s pretty much there for the movies
That was the potential with Guardians of the Galaxy - very different from Avengers, with very different situations. They could have been something, but maybe they’ve had their run.
I would watch another Eternals movie, but I hope they’d keep it independent.
So, he’s Doom from another timeline / universe where he’s not(?) Tony Stark but Victor von Doom, a genius inventor who creates a suit of power armor to rule over a small country with high tech secrets (Wakanda/Latveria) and there’s no Stark in that universe, it’s just a What If remix merged into the MCU main timeline?
This is weird
Wait thats illegal
Wait, what? How is this gonna work? Lots of costume or… Is MCU iron man canonically becoming Dr Doom somehow?
my guess is alternate timeline stark born in Latveria or something like that
MCU (616) Tony Stark is dead dead. Pushing up the daisies. Pining for the fjords. Most we might get are flashbacks, alternate versions (until they close up the multiverse thing with the next two Avengers films), and possibly an AI voiced by RDJr in Ironheart.
This Doom might be an alternate version of Stark, or we might never get to see his face, or we might simply get a “yeah, this is my face, deal with it” lampshade as we got with James Rhodes and are going to get with Thunderbolt Ross.
(I’m not even convinced he’ll last for more than the two Avengers films… alternate Doom comes to 616 for reasons, does his thing, leaves. Local 616 Doom then doesn’t need much of an introduction, can be played by someone younger and cheaper.)
My current running theory is that the plot might be him as a doom clone and they were planning on trucking viewers like they did with Mysterio in Far From Home (unless those viewers knew the character, of course) but for whatever reason they believed the hype is better than the shock after the fact. Maybe trying to deal with decreasing viewership or something.
Will that lead to a new, actually good Marvel vs Capcom? Because MvC Infinite did as well as these more recent movies.
Huh? Huh.
The time we faced Doom…