Oh my that damage control speech from Ford the article was forced to include does not work in the direction they hope it does.
There is actual fear to be perceived as Incompetent in there.
The reporters did very little to sugarcoat that they got told to edit it. Basically a copyPaste of fords demands of what needed to be talked about
What’s this thing where when you need to italicize something that is already italicized, you change it to a sans-serif font? Looks bad
Oh so that is why my eyes burn, i thought it was purely the content.
It was a quote from them…
It says they went to China in 2023 though?
Yes, it does. Your point?
China makes everything better & cheaper, not just cars.
That’s not how you spell “Xinjang camps” …
America has more prisoners than China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
They also have 100x we many executions as we have, probably closer to 1000x.
you just executed an innocent man: https://lemmy.ml/post/20527494
Yeah, so we’re still what, 10k behind China this year?
Thank you for the reference link.
China has one hell of a note on that page:
b. See info about additional detainees, and alleged detainees, at Re-education through labor, Laogai, and Xinjiang internment camps.
Until the brand goes poof because China didn’t like something they did and poof; now you have a ghost car. Good luck finding repair parts for your car; and fixing the server connection required features
never had this experience before.
But I had exactly this issue many times with Google cancelling stuff I like.
I think you got something mixed up there. The saying does not go:
If you want it to last, buy made in China!
It goes:
Buying cheap is buying twice
And China really sells the cheapest crap there is. It isn’t even a competition.
- The arrogance of seeing only established manufacturers.
- The self-centeredness of assuming US and European are the only markets that matter, and product mix in US is more profitable.
- The instant gratification of not thinking beyond quarterly financials.
- The lack of knowledge of his own business and how to fit engineering timelines into marketing timelines
They still build the only real EV truck though
trucks are for rednecks and white trash.
You’ve never set foot outside of a city or had any contact with the people who produce your food, have you?
Trucks are for every tradesperson that does the things you lack the time, training or tools to do when something breaks at your residence. Trucks help you move.
Vans, you’re thinking of vans. Becuase you can lock up all your expensive tools in a van, it keeps rain off your supplies, it gives you a mobile workspace with AC, and you can take out the seats or reconfigure it for the job at hand. All the tradesmen I know drive vans. All the idiots I know who want an expensive mall crawling pavement princess so they look like they could do actual work, buy trucks.
I’m glad you know enough people to make uninformed opinions about my professional needs. Are you going to recommend, like another poster here, that I buy a second dedicated vehicle that costs more than I make in a year for the occasions where I need to transport stuff that you can’t load in a van? AC? You think I could afford to run the AC?
By the way is my 2005 Ranger with 200k+ miles that is worth less than $4k a pavement princess? Am I an idiot for owning one general purpose vehicle that covers all my personal and professional needs?
No, but I wouldn’t call delivering gravel high skill labor that I couldn’t do.
Sure there are legitimate needs for trucks. The vast majority of truck owners buy them to look cool, instead of actually doing truck things with them. Be proud that you may be the exception to the rule.
there are way more trucks than tradespeople.
I always wonder about that:
- I knew a guy with a truck to commute alone into Boston for a desk job. Does home improvement projects but most of the time it’s an excessive vehicle
- Family up the street - a couple of the grown kids live at home and all have trucks. On the one hand it’s a family of Trades, but on the other hand the trucks are spotless, customized, and I never see tools.
And that doesn’t invalidate my statement.
Squares and rectangles
Trucks don’t do that, vans do.
In Europe every tradesperson drives a van because it is a lot more efficient and can haul way more than trucks ever can.
Well then I guess I need a new vehicle because I’m a handyman and I use a truck. Dealing with a van full of stuff and trying to slide drywall in is kind of difficult. However, I can easily snap them on top of the bed of my truck and get moving. And it cost me a whole lot less to maintain this truck than it would to maintain a van. You ever tried carrying a ton of gravel in a van? I wouldn’t. Takes much longer to load and unload that way.
Well then I guess I need a new vehicle because I’m a handyman and I use a truck.
Yes, yes you do.
They carry very different loads, and both are awesome.
I get the criticism of the cyber truck, and the hummer EV is ridiculous, but why do the R1T and Silverado EV not count as trucks? R1T is an expensive but great midsize go anywhere truck. Silverado EV is a range king and a little flat looking, but still 100% “truck”. Lightning is just the all around best value of a truck. I say this as a lightning owner, there are options in this market.
Only one of the three is body on frame and it’s Ford’s
He was not alone in his sleep. Volkswagen and Mercedes have been sleeping about as deep and long.
Mercedes has just increased the speed limit for their level 3 self driving system to 95km/h, which means you can legally read a book or watch a movie while the car drives on the Autobahn.
Any car going 95m/h on a German Autobahn is going to cause a lot of problems. It would be a moving accident waiting to happen.
Nope. Semi trucks drive 90 km/h, you can just stay behind one in the right lane.
No, they do 100km/h. That’s the problem.
Then they’re speeding.
Also no Mercedes driver stays in the right lane. Ever.
Yes, they are. And cruising in the right lane sucks a lot less if you can do something else while driving.
Lol, the corrections… “We didn’t sleep, we sold 5 cars!”
They are still sleeping. The petrol corruption runs so deep, it will the downfall of the western industry.
Ford has been too busy selling $80,000 trucks to worry about cars and EVs.
I’ve never understood why so many people in the US buy pickups. City dwellers? Why? People in most trades? Panel van > pickup. Farmers or ranchers? Makes sense.
My employer just swapped me from a pickup with a covered rollout bed to a van. I absolutely love it! Slightly less comfortable ride, but carries more parts and it’s all more accessible, especially if it’s raining or snowing. So this is why many companies have been using vans for so long…
Utility, can carry tall stuff, and can carry messy stuff without worrying about dirtying up the inside of a vehicle. Rain will wash a pickup bed out. At least that’s why I have one, hauling stuff, working around my property, hauling trash. But mine is a 1995.
Status symbol and to project a personality.
Status symbol: “I’m a fucking moron :D”
Now with Truck Nuts^Tm
To absolute morons who make sure it comes with a bed cover they never take off.
They’re the world’s factory, of course they’ll build better and cheaper.
