• umami_wasabi@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    What would happen if now plug in another calculator? AFAIK that only a P2P connection and never meant for 2 parties.

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      2 months ago

      Idk, if there is one thing it does consistently well its standardized tests.

      Not that it can be used in any non mathematical class and if teachers do actually pay attention.

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          2 months ago

          It’s not a WiFi model, a custom module was hidden inside the calculator to provide the WiFi connection.

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            2 months ago

            Ah yup should’ve read the article lol. That’s a whole lot of work and effort into cheating, which probably won’t work? Needs a whole thing to it sounds like plug into the link port? Which would stick out… so like… idk MAYBE they are stupid and don’t notice but like… I wouldn’t bet my life on that.

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              2 months ago

              There’s a video in the article showing the whole process. The new module was completely hidden inside the calculators case and soldered to the internal connections.

              Until you actually open it up, it doesn’t look abnormal at all.

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                2 months ago

                Ah, interesting. That’s quite a bit of work more than expected then lol. Link things at the top assumed it’d plug into that. Seems like a whole lot of work where if you’re into fixing shit and soldering and all that you probably don’t hate math much and thus… learning algebra 2 for a damn SAT wouldn’t be that hard?

                I suppose maybe the GRE or whatever? Idk what all that entails and if they allow these.

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      2 months ago

      Back when we were doing quadratic equations; I wrote a program on my TI-84 that would ask which parts of the equation you already had, and would fill in the rest for you.

      My teacher liked it so much he bought a transfer cable for those calculators so he could get a copy for himself. Then used to to grade tests.

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    2 months ago

    Ok but calculators are only allowed in math class and if there’s one thing language models suck at, it’s doing basic math. Forget anything at least as complicated as algebra

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      For me they weren’t allowed in Calc I, II, III, Alg I, II and Differential equations. Every other class pretty much required it.

      if there’s one thing language models suck at, it’s doing basic math.

      If you’re using a GPT 3.5 turbo level models, sure. Synthetic data is perfect for teaching LLMs, o1 will be good enough up to Calc III IMO, maybe even better.

      The only thing I don’t like about this is that it uses a TI, yikes.

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        They let us use them for all my college math classes.

        They really don’t help much at all if you don’t understand the math, and if you do understand, you don’t need the calculator most of the time.

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          Don’t know about university math, but this applied to a lot of the stuff in my last years of school. Since we always had a part where you were required to solve everything without a calculator you had to be able to do everything without it. For algebra and Calculus it just meant that you were able to do the math more efficiently. For statistics the calculator was basically useless, since it didnt help you if you didnt knew what you had to do, what was basically the only hard part of it.

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          That’s also what my upper level math courses were like in college. In high school and the first couple of years of college I got good use out of my graphing calculator, but after that I reached the point where all of its advanced features were no longer useful. I just ended up leaving it at home and brought my old TI-30 Solar for class for the occasional time I had to crunch some actual numbers.

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      2 months ago

      They’re great at multiple choice when they’ve seen the test versions

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    Yeah, nobody in class is going to suspect the kid with the arduino-type science project mess of wires duct taped to their calculator.

    For those too lazy to read, that’s how this works. An external micro controller talks to the calc through the IO port, and does the Wifi stuff, acting as a middleman.

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    1 month ago

    Utilizing the tools available to you to solve problems is not cheating, its resourcefulness, and using your brain. Which is of course frowned upon in schools that exist to churn out mindless drones for corporate enslavement.

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      1 month ago

      I wonder what can counter this except banning it, or provide calculators to students instead of using their own.