What would happen if now plug in another calculator? AFAIK that only a P2P connection and never meant for 2 parties.
Yeah, nobody in class is going to suspect the kid with the arduino-type science project mess of wires duct taped to their calculator.
For those too lazy to read, that’s how this works. An external micro controller talks to the calc through the IO port, and does the Wifi stuff, acting as a middleman.
I saw the video. It closes up nicely and is invisible. It can even re-download the programs if wiped before by the teacher.
Well, that teaches me to read AND click all links in an article.
You could just have read. It’s also mentioned in the main article how it was nearly hidden.
For those too lazy to watch the video, the whole thing is eventually concealed within the calculator.
Oof getting ChatGPT to help on a test is likely to lead to some wrong answers.
Idk, if there is one thing it does consistently well its standardized tests.
Not that it can be used in any non mathematical class and if teachers do actually pay attention.
Cept you can’t use any wifi models on any standardized test for this reason.
It’s not a WiFi model, a custom module was hidden inside the calculator to provide the WiFi connection.
Ah yup should’ve read the article lol. That’s a whole lot of work and effort into cheating, which probably won’t work? Needs a whole thing to it sounds like plug into the link port? Which would stick out… so like… idk MAYBE they are stupid and don’t notice but like… I wouldn’t bet my life on that.
There’s a video in the article showing the whole process. The new module was completely hidden inside the calculators case and soldered to the internal connections.
Until you actually open it up, it doesn’t look abnormal at all.
Ah, interesting. That’s quite a bit of work more than expected then lol. Link things at the top assumed it’d plug into that. Seems like a whole lot of work where if you’re into fixing shit and soldering and all that you probably don’t hate math much and thus… learning algebra 2 for a damn SAT wouldn’t be that hard?
I suppose maybe the GRE or whatever? Idk what all that entails and if they allow these.
Probably mostly correct answers though…
You know what they say: C’s get degrees.
If a kid is smart enough to figure this out and make it work for them, they’re gonna be fine…
Back when we were doing quadratic equations; I wrote a program on my TI-84 that would ask which parts of the equation you already had, and would fill in the rest for you.
My teacher liked it so much he bought a transfer cable for those calculators so he could get a copy for himself. Then used to to grade tests.
Yes, but the kids buying the modded devices may not be
good. they will learn not to buy their way out of a problem at least.
Better than plastic explosives and shrapnel.
Ok but calculators are only allowed in math class and if there’s one thing language models suck at, it’s doing basic math. Forget anything at least as complicated as algebra
For me they weren’t allowed in Calc I, II, III, Alg I, II and Differential equations. Every other class pretty much required it.
if there’s one thing language models suck at, it’s doing basic math.
If you’re using a GPT 3.5 turbo level models, sure. Synthetic data is perfect for teaching LLMs, o1 will be good enough up to Calc III IMO, maybe even better.
The only thing I don’t like about this is that it uses a TI, yikes.
They let us use them for all my college math classes.
They really don’t help much at all if you don’t understand the math, and if you do understand, you don’t need the calculator most of the time.
That’s also what my upper level math courses were like in college. In high school and the first couple of years of college I got good use out of my graphing calculator, but after that I reached the point where all of its advanced features were no longer useful. I just ended up leaving it at home and brought my old TI-30 Solar for class for the occasional time I had to crunch some actual numbers.
Don’t know about university math, but this applied to a lot of the stuff in my last years of school. Since we always had a part where you were required to solve everything without a calculator you had to be able to do everything without it. For algebra and Calculus it just meant that you were able to do the math more efficiently. For statistics the calculator was basically useless, since it didnt help you if you didnt knew what you had to do, what was basically the only hard part of it.
They’re great at multiple choice when they’ve seen the test versions
This kid never took science
Time to build a wolfarm applet
This is cool stuff
Hot stuff. I got to say, YouTube has some pretty interesting things.
Utilizing the tools available to you to solve problems is not cheating, its resourcefulness, and using your brain. Which is of course frowned upon in schools that exist to churn out mindless drones for corporate enslavement.
ChatGPT is famously bad at the things you’d use a calculator for though
But you also have a calculator…
Obligatory plug for calcgpt
Not anymore since it’s spreading news instead of remaining on YouTube
I wonder what can counter this except banning it, or provide calculators to students instead of using their own.
