I’ve just been reading about how in the future, AI will allow us to speak with animals, and people will be able to communicate telepathically and live in their own VR worlds. (etc., etc.)

Man, this isn’t a world I want to live in. I’m so tired of the constant paradigm shifting that you have to put your brain through with each innovation. I wish technology just stayed frozen in the 1980s – there would be so much less uncertainty in my life and I could just focus on being a human.

Innovation keeps being forced on you and I just feel tired. >!And I’m only just in my 20s!< Is this ok? Is this valid? When resisting it is a loser’s game…

  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    21 days ago

    My issue with technological progress is that at this point most of it seems like it is no longer of benefit to the average person. Rather it is more about ways for corporations and governments to control us or extract more (e.g. money, data) from us. Most consumer tech is trending towards enshittification.

    The exception to this is medical advancements.

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    Yes. Much of the technological improvement I’ve seen in the last 20 years isn’t real meaningful. Smartphones don’t make my life better. A 60” flat screen 4k TV doesn’t make movies any better. My 2019 Jeep gets worse gas mileage than my 1978 Gremlin. Plane rides are worse. Ads cover everything I look at. We no longer own music we like to listen to

    Was any of it good? Sure, but most of it is just garbage to generate more consumption

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    So, AI allowing us to speak with animals, people being able to communicate telepathically, people able to live entirely in their own VR worlds?

    At best, those are pipedreams, at worst they are bullshit sales pitches that will either never happen for products that can’t possibly work safely or as imagined.

    You can’t talk to animals if they don’t even have their own languages.

    Telepathy? As in mind to mind direct interface? Sure, talk to the people with exoskeletons or bionic eyes that can no longer be hardware or software maintained. Or you know all the Neurolink monkies and pigs that went insane and died of infection or bashing their heads into walls until they killed themselves.

    … Or you could just text things to people or call them.

    Live entirely in a VR world? Sure, there’s two ways to almost do that:

    1. Be extraordinarily wealthy such that you can afford butlers and a home that you never need to leave.

    2. Oh you’re poor? Well you can remote operate an android and be a robot butler or industrial worker.

    From my point of view, there has been technological progress, but very little of it is aimed at meaningfully improving the average person’s life, introducing some game changing systemic, society spanning thing that makes some very important, very costly thing, far far less expensive… in about a decade or so.

    We got to the point where basically any office job can be done remotely… and nope, can’t switch to a remote work paradigm because then commercial real estate market collapses and middle managers don’t need to exist anymore.

    We’ve had EVs for a while now… turns out their only marginally better for the environment, and more expensive. The real needed change is a switch to whoah remote working, combined with redesigning cities to have more extensive mass transit.

    I don’t know if you’ve played Stellaris, but in that game you have 3 simultaneous tech trees: Societal, Engineering, and Theoretical Physics.

    In the last two decades we’ve made progress in the latter, and basically none in the former.

    Well, we have the science to back up things like better social safety nets, UBI, better work life balance, reliable and affordable healthcare… but we don’t implement it.

    Technology can drive politics, and politics can drive technology.

    Our politics are capitalist. Tech is basically only implemented toward increasing profit. And almost always only in the short term. And almost always as cost saving measures, instead of actually improving a product.

    Innovation feels like its being forced on us… because it is. Top Down. Adapt or Die. And… that’s not really innovation anyway.

    We could live in a social order that treats employees as investments, trains them, pays for that training.

    Instead, we are costs. We are disposable. Its up to us to keep learning on our own time and dime, even though literally no one has any idea what specific skills will be needed next.

    … I’m getting a bit rambly here, but my basic point is that we haven’t had any meaningful major breakthroughs that improve the common person’s life in a while.

    Everything meaningful and new is aimed at the wealthy or ultra wealthy, as consumers, or as owners.

    Everything else is ‘pay in time or money to learn or use this new system or standard or else you’re unemployable.’

    If we did somehow invent a groundbreaking invention, like humanoid automatons with their own, self contained, ability to replace most human workers… the wealthy would just stop employing us, let us die.

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    It fucking sucks. I used to be excited about tech too, but now I just dread what they will come up with next. Because it’s all about spying on everyone now, and taking away freedoms. Literally 1984.

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      I found it healthy to find humour in companies collecting boatloads of telemetry data to sell to brokers who then manage to make the data worse while they curate it, then sell it to advertisers who manage to fail to properly utilize the data they pay boatloads to access, and you end up with “targeted” ads that are no better targeted than advertisements placed on broadcast television. It’s a cycle of money that somehow creates wealth and cash flow out of nothing and provides no value in the end. Its the bullshittiest of bullshit jobs. And by simply blocking and avoiding ads you make that money cycle even more pointless!

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        Sure, I can see the humor in it also from that perspective. I just don’t think it will stop at ads. In China, they have a citizen score system based on data collection like this. And if you drop too low, you won’t get loans, or jobs.

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    I don’t have a problem with technology advancing. I have a problem with the goal of all this new shit just being to extract more money out of me while providing as minimal product as possible. An easy example being smartphones. The potential in functionality for them is insane but I can’t buy one today that doesn’t have less features than my 2016 model and I’m constantly fighting permissions bullshit any time I try to do anything fancy with it.

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    That’s the points of game I played. Humanity left all progress to an advance AI but it kept holding back technologically because humanity couldn’t keep up with the endless break throughs. Which led to the rouge AIs that hacked into it got some really advance gear.

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    Agreed, I have a Thinkpad T440p and I love it. Consider that your problem though may not be about technology but perhaps consumerism and the underlying economic reasons that makes us tired and depressed despite everything being “better”.

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    Your feelings are of course valid, that’s how you feel, and it’s a perfectly normal thing. On the one hand technology keeps changing, but on the other hand people are trying to drum up money by selling promises of new technology as if it were snake oil.

    All of the talk you hear about AI, it’s 95% nonsense. Of course we can see some new cool toys, and we should be happy that we have new cool toys, but it’s not like something totally magical has happened in the last 2 years, and it’s not like something totally magical is going to happen in the next two years.

    With all that in mind, you just got to take a break from the news, whenever you feel like it, and try to be open-minded about what the future will bring. A couple of decades from now is certainly going to be different from a couple of decades ago, and although that can be scary at times, remember that the same thing was true for our parents and their parents and their parents.

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    The technological progress is what is not normal. Modern humans have been walking around, living their lives for 300,000 years. Agriculture is less than 12,000 years old, basically still brand new in comparison to the span of time that people just like us have existed for.

    For nearly all of human history, generation after generation after generation for thousands of years lived very similar lifestyles with marginally improved, but familiar technology.

    It is only in the last few hundred years, a tiny tiny sliver of the human timeline, that we have seen rapid technological progress that has completely changed the way people live their lives from one generation to the next. Lifestyle changes and paradigm shifts that used to take many many generations now are seemingly happening several times within an individual’s lifetime.

    We have barely even had any time to adapt to agriculture, let alone capitalism or air travel or instant global telecommunication or AI, etc. So don’t be too hard on yourself about feeling fatigued. I feel it too. We are living in an alien world that we aren’t really “meant for”. You’re “supposed to be” a hunter-gatherer.

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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

      Shit, forget phones and AI, let’s go even more basic. Your brain still has essentially the same neocortex that people around 250,000 years ago had, and it is evolved to only be capable of processing/understanding a maximum of around 150 interconnected social relationships, the number of people that a hunter-gatherer 250,000 years ago could expect to know and interact with over their lifetime.

      We haven’t had time to adjust to meeting and knowing more than about 150 people total in your lifetime. How many contacts are in your phone right now? I had like 500 facebook friends as a teenager and they were all people I knew outside of social media… Our current lives are extremely different than the life that our brain is equipped for.

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    The problem isn’t necessarily the tools we develop. The question is who do these tools empower.
    If technological progress disproportionately empowers a minority and increases socioeconomic injustice, there is no true progress, merely increasingly elaborate repression and abuse

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    What your experiencing is a kind of social decay due to people being squeeze more and more, and not just economically.

    This isn’t specific to tech though, if there was no tech, they would just find other ways to make life harder.

    This is just the journey we’ve been on since the Industrial Revolution where the market decides what our new environment is for the sake of profit.

    The good news is that it’s a journey of ups and downs, so it could stop being dystopian soon.

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      so it could stop being dystopian soon.

      Narrator voice: it wont

      Such course reversal requires drastic policy changes at the highest level and there is zero indication that any of this is happening.

      Watch in 4 years google won’t get broken up

      Realpage is still price gouging renters after settlement

      Dynamic grocery store prices based on your income.

      Why have product of different quality when you can sell the same shit ar scale and adjust based on income?

      I am being semi serious here too… Like from the owner perspective, why wouldnt they do this?

      Who is going to stop them? Daddy sam?! Bitch please

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      This is just the journey we’ve been on since the Industrial Revolution where the market decides what our new environment is for the sake of profit.

      Well said

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    I think a problem here is that technological advancement and technological progress are not necessarily the same thing. I don’t think that every new piece of technology that pushes us further into some kind of strange new world necessarily is good for humanity, or society, or even just the individual. I think this is some of what your noting in your post here. Sure, on the whole the internet has probably been a net positive for Humanity, but one can’t deny that at the same time there are a lot of strikingly negative aspects of the internet, and that it’s further and seemingly endless encroachment on our lives is deleterious.

    I think that as I’ve gotten older I’ve become a bit more technology averse, or at the least a bit more suspicious of technology, than I used to be as a child, and maybe part of that is becoming a father, but at the very least I can respect where you’re coming from and I agree with you. It seems like our world is just a never-ending carousel of novelty and we’re never allowed to just absorb and respect the things that we have before something new comes in and shifts the paradigm.

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    Technology moving forward doesn’t mean you have to move with it. In fact, there’s an advantage in realizing when something is good enough and that you don’t need a better version. Smartphones, for example, haven’t added a single feature I need since around 2016. In many ways, they’ve even regressed, using more fragile materials for aesthetics and removing useful features like the headphone jack. Back then, I needed to invest in flagship models to get something I liked, but now the flagship models are overkill for what I need, so I can just go with a mid-range device instead.

    The same applies to cars. My truck is from 2007 and has every feature I need, without the ones I don’t. I have no intention of upgrading anytime soon. I can just keep replacing broken parts for a fraction of the cost it would take to do the same on a newer model.