A lot less annoying then endlessly filtering content by community and user
It is the opposite. People join an instance which does not agree with their point of view. They get banned. They move to a different instance.
Echo chamber galore.
On the other hand, learning to deal with people you dislike is a useful skill. If everyone segregates themselves into opposing factions there will never be any progress.
Of course, I’ve personally blocked about 600 people…
My reply test to see if you blocked me
You are not blocked, because you are beneath contempt.
[jk]
o7 to the brave admins of Hexbear, Lemmy’s tankie quarantine instance.
I just sort of picked a server at random when I singed up. Turned out to be a cool place, but I am sure that is true for most instances.
I kinda did the same. Except I went for .ml and folks would call me a tankie for no other reason. Got kinda boring so I switched to another.
Personally I kind of don’t want everybody to be like-minded, because that becomes an echo chamber. What I’m after on Lemmy is people willing to explore subjects objectively, without beating the bushes for enemies or competing for upvotes.
Meanwhile I’m on a Dutch instance and look at all the bs…
Doesn’t this lead to potential echo chambers though. If I go and block all content I don’t like, how can I have ideas that challenge my beliefs?
Not everything has to have an opposing perspective, where’s the opposing community for knitting? Tearing?
I wouldn’t pull that thread if I were you.
Probably purling.
Some people don’t come to social media to have their beliefs challenged and that’s okay.
Underrated benefit of Lemmy is that it isn’t infested with bots the way its larger counterpart is. Reddit has really turned to garbage.
Lower quantity of content here, but more authentic
There are some instances that lean in specific directions, but there are also several that are kind of just melting pots. For the most part I don’t need to use blocks too frequently, but there are definitely some spaces/users that I find are too hostile that it gets in the way of their intended messaging. But then, that line is going to be different for everybody.
Almost everyone is on Lemmy.world, so… I don’t know. Don’t think they made a choice. People who are not on Lemmy.world made a choice at least.
Should I be concerned about being on lemm.ee?
Not sure if a third is everyone
And what we’ve learned about trump cultists is that echo chambers are fabulous.
How do you filter out an entire instance as a single user? I was just trying to figure that out the other day, but it didn’t appear possible.
Account Settings - Blocks - Instances
Ah, thanks. I had to scroll down a ways because my individual community block list was large enough to push that one out the bottom of the page I guess.
Note that that approach doesn’t actually block the users from that instance, only the communities.
To block user content leaking through that block, there’s apps like Connect or Sync, or the Lemmy alternatives PieFed and Mbin, which additionally offer a number of advanced features that Lemmy does not have such as Categories of Communities (but you’d have to switch instances to access those).
Apparently I earned a site wide ban from lemmy.ml, but their posts keep showing up here. Annoyingly, apparently when you get banned the “block community” button is hidden, so you have to add each community you want to block individually. So just blocking the entire instance solves my problem.
Lemmy.ml is such a weird situation. Personally, I worry about the future of Lemmy when I consider who runs the circus.
It started off as the first and only Lemmy instance run by the maintainers. It was classified as general purpose, but leaned hard to the left. The maintainers are mostly Tankies, but the users are not, and Lemmygrad is created for the purpose of being focused on far-left politics. Lemmy.ml was my first instance, and I was an early user. Early on it was nice there.
As Lemmy grows, new instances appear, and eventually ML is not the largest, just the oldest. As that happens, the original intent of the ML TLD choice starts to become visible, as the instance shifts from general purpose to an instance for “Marxist Leninists” just like Lemmygrad. Early users have now mostly migrated elsewhere because it is no longer the “flagship” instance.
Now we’re in a position where the majority of Lemmy users exist on non-ML instances, and think that the ML instances are run by morons, yet those morons maintain the codebase that runs every Lemmy instance.
It’s a ticking timebomb. I expect we’ll all be on Kbin by 2030 after something boils over and the Lemmy maintainers start fucking around with the code to get their way.
You were not the first that this happened to - they’ve even kicked out mods without any warning (and literally told people to kill themselves), nor will you be the last. At this point it seems to be a right of passage that people must go through, bc it is administered by the Lemmy sourcecode developers so very few instances seem to want to risk pissing them off.
Blocking especially Hexbear alone solved 90% of my issues with toxicity on the Fediverse, and blocking Lemmy.ml brings that up to like 99.9% - there are trolls elsewhere ofc, just like there are some people who might have been worth talking to on Lemmy.ml, but overall it acts like a spam filter that much improves my happiness here.:-)
Not sure how to on desktop but I use Connect and it’s in the menu options of posts. Super easy to block individuals, communities, and instances.
So far I find it to be nonsense. Call the US a terrorist nation for couping democratically elected leader in favour of dictators for over a hundred years, get downvoted and banned by amerophiles. Call China or Russia terrorist nations for literal genocide, wars and international strongman bullying, get downvoted and banned by tankies.
Can’t say retard because that’s a slur but idiot is fine despite it meaning the absolutely same thing, also calling someone slow but in french is also fine.
People are so hardcore pro priphacy would literally rather see child rapists go free and child porn platforms stay online, than to have to tolerate the police scan outgoing connections for a specific IP for three days.
Lemmy feels more and more like extremist echo chambers without any actual discourse or exchange.
People are so hardcore pro privacy would literally rather see child rapists go free and child porn platforms stay online, than to have to tolerate the police scan outgoing connections for a specific IP for three days.
This does not make sense. If police suspect a crime and have valid reasons for surveillance, nobody would have an issue with it warrant was obtained.
Privacy crowd is pretty clear, we are not here to enable crime. But we will not tolerate police state for a fake feeling of “security”
Can you provide some context what you are actually trying to say here?
Sure. Happened at .org and exactly how I told it. Police monitored all outgoing connections of all users of a certain provider over three days, waiting for someone to connect to a certain IP. Lead to the catch of the operator of a giant child porn site on the darkweb as well as several of his accomplices.
People complained about the breach of privacy and overreach of government. Not a joke.
No, your reasoning, understanding of a topic and way of talking is just dumb. Get rid if that paranoia of everyone bullying you. Don’t go into threads of your political opposite and then be surprised to get flogged. Don’t brush of everyone disagreeing with you as “they are all the same and equally bad”. Stop ignoring authoritarian abusing power and wake up from you fantasy dream world where you believe this doesn’t happen. Once you’ve given up some of your rights, it’s really hard to get them back. No one is defending pedo platforms, it’s about our lifes and knowledge that these surveillance tools will fuck up normal people. It just takes one stupid vote to get the fascists into power and a whole country can move into a dictatorship. If you fail to see this, your very naiv and need to study more history content.
You’re not wrong in criticizing the US, people who look at them objectively should obviously see the many flaws. But as with guns , the US is very patriotic and it’s difficult to argue against. But getting someone to realize and fix their own bias is another difficult topic.
the US a terrorist nation for couping democratically elected leader in favour of dictators for over a hundred years
Is this really true?
Yeah CIA likes to overthrow foreign governments, some democratically elected, and destabilize nations. They say they don’t do it anymore but who knows. It’s pretty public knowledge.
Edit: I live in America and it’s like that thing where you can talk shit about your own family.
I meant the “for over a hundred years” part specifically, I bolded it but it’s not as noticeable as it should be.
oh yeah for sure. Dude they orchestrated a coup and took over Hawaii in the like 1800s.
Plus I think there was fuckery in Latin America even back then.
The Monroe Doctrine has been a guiding principle of American geopolitics since its conceptualization in 1823, whether or not America has had the power to necessarily enforce it.
The goal is clear, the Western Hemisphere is America’s property to do with as it pleases and interference will not be tolerated.
Just the history of Haiti alone and the Banana Wars in general proves the point for at least 100 years.
Yes, most people will want to do this at a minimum with Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml (actually most instances already have defederated with the second, but it doesn’t hurt).
What’s wrong with lemmy.ml? It’s a pretty generalist instance if you ask me. The only issue I have with it is that it doesn’t block obvious troll instances like lemmygrad or the one that’s even worse by default but you can do that yourself these days.
Lemmyml has a lot of tankies and other weird characters
Also they have a mod/admin problem. (Don’t you dare question the tankie rhetoric)
It’s full of tankies. Many of the mods of major subs such as politics or world news are tankies and will block anything remotely critical of Russia or China and censor anyone who says, for instance, that Ukraine has the right to take the fight to Russia. It’s definitely more covert than lemmygrad is, but after about 6 months there, it became abundantly clear to me that nothing good was coming out of that place.
Make a joke at russian or China’s expense on there, then please report back haha
Whats so terrible about lemmygrad.
You just demonstrated the issue with lemmyml
They think North Korea is communist utopia
I think a bit the opposite: I’m really worried about the trend to give people only information they care about. I think it’s essential to be able to have information about everything. Of course there will always be stuff you don’t care about but having it automatically filtered out is dangerous in my opinion. In GAFA-powered social networks, you are only given pieces of information about your own opinion, you never have something that make you question yourself about your opinion. The power of independent and open media like Lemmy is to not rely on such biasing algorithms.
Lemmy has a mod problem honestly. Legitimate options get censored while the echo chamber is promoted.
There’s a nuance here that you’re missing - self-curating your social media experience is vastly different from the algorithm hellhole that is the modern corporate social media landscape. You can filter out any dissenting opinions or facts, but you can in real life, too. And like in real life, it takes a lot of active effort to get to that point. Whereas the algorithm will do that for you without you even knowing it.
I’d say that self-curated social media is like going off to college or moving to a new city while the algorithm is like living in the town you grew up in. I grew up in a very liberal state, but there were about 3 non-white kids in my entire high school the year I graduated, and it wasn’t until I was introduced to Tumblr in college in the late 2000s that I first heard words like “transgender.” And Tumblr is the most self-curated social media that I’ve ever seen. Back then, you couldn’t even follow hashtags - just people. So your front page was exclusively people that you followed and the posts that they reblogged from people that they followed.
You don’t have to use filters, just like you don’t have to subscribe to subreddits on Reddit. You can just use the default front page if you are afraid of tailoring it to your tastes.
Yep. I just raw dog All for the past 6 hours most of the time. The only communities I’ve blocked are the most active German ones because I don’t speak German.
This is the way. Although I also block e.g. sports and hexbear - I already know that I don’t want any of that.
I just raw dog All for the past 6 hours most of the time.
Doing my part!
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