• Victor@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I just feel like after a public rapist becomes president, twice, there’s no hope for Americans. It really is hopeless by now.

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    6 days ago

    This tweet assumes people care about OPs opinion, or histories opinion. It’s a toothless threat trying to invoke some Boogeyman of future retribution. Anyone who voted for Trump is going to be doing the Jennifer Lawrence “ok” reaction to this.

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      6 days ago

      So why bother having you’re own morals and opinions, is what you’re saying.
      No thanks.

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    5 days ago

    It must be easy for the Dems to blame the voters and call them XYZ because it affords them the opportunity of not having to change. If the voters are the problem then you don’t have to do anything different and continue down the same path.

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      No. It is that Trump won with the support of over 70 million Americans. People are responsible for their choices. jfc

      Everyone saying Trumps totals didn’t change, yes, but their composition absolutely did change. But even that is besides the point. Even if they staged exactly the same, that’s still really fucking problematic and its absurd to give these people cover for being shitasses.

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        Trump didnt gain or loose many voters.

        Biden/Harris lost a lot of voters.

        So really the change between 2020 and 2024 is not a popularity increase for Trump, but a huge popularity loss for Biden/Harris.

        Now the question is, how did Biden/Harris manage to be so unpopular, that 12 million people decided to rather risk Trump winning, than vote for them again?

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        Yeah, Dems should have been able to put a wet turd on the ticket and beat Trump. The people who voted for Trump are the actual problem.

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          Doesn’t your first statement imply that the dems flubbed an easy victory? Combined with the fact that Trump didn’t gain many voters? If the election was supposed to be that easy to win, isn’t it the dem campaign strat that is the problem? HEY WHITE WOMEN YOU LIKE LETHAL MILITARY?

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            I’m saying Dems did better than a wet turd, and a wet turd should have been enough.

            Anyone who chose to vote for Trump was the actual problem, whether they voted for him before or not. They chose violence.

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              Well apparently not it wasnt enough. Either the wet turd wasn’t enough or they didn’t do better than one. Either way, you’re acting like a Democrat right now. “It’s the voters who are wrong!”

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                The voters (and non-voters) are wrong. That isn’t acting like a Democrat, that is acknowledging that the election results were putting a fucking felon who tried to overthrow the government back into office and that is the stupidest fucking outcome possible.

                That is the country kicking itself in the dick. We played ourselves.

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    Many of those people could have been swayed to vote democrat if the democrats fucking addressed the actual fucking issues and actually gave them a damn narrative to go by. Saying everything is fine when nothing is fine and the Republicans are constantly screwing them over (while also 100% deflecting ALL blame elsewhere) is delusional at best.

    Also fuck AIPAC.

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      I’ve done a lot of posts critical of the posture and actions of the Democrat Party and their whole “If you don’t vote you’re voting Trump” propaganda (which are right there in my post history with lots of for and against votes), but as I see it the point being made by this tweet is different.

      I don’t read this tweet as being about people who didn’t vote at all because the present day Democrat party, Democrat Candidate and Democrat President’s actions didn’t appeal to them (which is what seems to be responsible for the Democrat loss), I think it’s about people who actually explicitly voted Trump (so, none of that “implictly voting Trump if you don’t vote” bollocks but actually putting their vote on Trump)

      And I absolutelly agree with this tweet: that man is a complete total worm - in everything from what he’s done to what he says and even his body language - and on top of that was offering scapegoating and hate as policies.

      I can get it that some people couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the Genocidal ethno-Fascist supporting, pro-Oligarchy hard-right Neoliberal, slimy snakesoil salesman liar Democrats, but anybody actually voting Trump is not simply distrusting of or dissapointed with the modern day Democrat Party, they’re active supporters of an even broader and deeper kind of nastiness.

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    I’d really like to have 100 randomly chosen Trump voters in a room and interview them to find out how knowledgeable they are about Trump, about his policies, about his first term, about the criminal cases, etc.

    My guess is that at least 90% of them are brainwashed. I’m sure there are some that are completely aware of his record and are either single issue voters who are voting only on abortion. Some may be multi-millionaires who are voting just for lower taxes and don’t care about anything else. But, anybody who voted for him because of inflation / the economy has no idea what they’re talking about. Inflation was a worldwide problem and Trump’s policies made / will make it worse. Anybody who voted for him because he’s going to “fix immigration” has no idea what they’re doing because his policies are incoherent and will never work. Anybody who voted for him because of Gaza is an absolute moron because he’s just going to encourage the genocide.

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      You’re just pitching a story the NYT and the WaPo run regularly. “I heard it on a podcast, I heard it on FOX News, I heard it at church”. That’s the response you get.

      Don’t trust liberals to give you the news. Only trust conservatives. Viola! Now you’ll have a strong Republican dogma.

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    Well… I do judge them for their choice in political party when that party’s entire platform is built up on those things.

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    My plan is to simply avoid ALL contact with MAGAs unless I’m forced to work with them. The same way you would avoid a meth-addled pit bull.

    I’m not going to let them think their point of view is “fine” by pretending to be civil to them. It’s not.

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    Trump voters won’t care about any of that shit until it impacts them personally. My family is moving from Indiana to Maryland because of this election which is really going to obliterate grandparents’ time around our kids. Sucks for them we refuse to stay in a state that would actively destroy our kids’ education and wellbeing. They can shell out whatever massively inflated airfare it’ll cost them to come visit us in a place we can actually feel safe.

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      Wait until you’re the grandparent and see how it’s different then, and how would you’d think then

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        Sounds like gramma and grampa voted Trump, so maybe next time they’ll make better choices. It’s too late, of course, but that’s the bed they made.

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        Yes the warped perscrptive informed from 50 years ago, when you had no choice but to trust the TV and newspapers, not like the world has changed since then.

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    I could understand Trump in 2016. I could also understand Trump in 2020 but much less. In 2024? Nahh… America voted for him in 2024 and I will judge Americans for it.

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      in 2016 Trump was the one who mocked soldiers, was on tape bragging about grabbing women by the pussy, vilifying immigrants, and being just as shitty as he is today. There was nothing understandable about voting for him in 2016.

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    The religious fanatic psychopaths behind the scenes of MAGA, if successful in their goals, will ensure there is no history.

    Dark times is an understatement.

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    All aboard, everyone! Set sail on the S.S. Righteous Indignation…

    America is in a tight spot right now. Claiming moral highground does nothing to help the situation.

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    Meaning that if they are ever held accountable, they will say they never voted for Trump and burn anything that could ever indicate so.