Sadly almost every average user will most likely just use windows 10 past the end and won’t bother doing anything and eventually just buy new PC in few years. Also some stuff just can’t be done on Linux for work, not that it can’t be done but had problems with people not being able to open the files that were made on Linux libre office. But personally I’ll switch to Linux for safety and try to make it daily driver.
I have solved my work problem by using the online versions of MS office and SharePoint. The desktop versions are just emulated web apps these days anyway. I have only seen MS Project (which sucks anyway) and Excel having features I needed once or twice on the desktop version vs the online version.
Try OnlyOffice it’s basically indistinguishable from Microsoft Office, and available as a flatpak
To put this in perspective, it fell by 0.48%
Windows 10 grew by 0.89%
Linux actually dropped by 0.26% in that same period.
Not that I’d be too concerned about any of that, because that’s all data from reported OS in website visits, so all those are well within the margin of error.
We’ve been through this before.
When Windows dropped most 32 bit support, desktop Linux had a chance just like this, but it didn’t happen then either. Unless some distro becomes a perfect 1:1 replacement for Windows on all hardware, with no changes in installation procedure. (including when it’s purchased) as well as: All software must run not only perfectly, but exactly the same, with everything from installation to every moment of use exactly the same, otherwise people will use Windows unpatched, or go out and buy new hardware.
In my opinion, the year of Linux on the desktop will only come when the desktop is abandoned, and it is no longer a commonly used platform.
Yes, it’s bleak, but we’ve been down this road before. Unless a distro becomes perfect, no significant change will come.
Scoop up that hardware being discarded, install your favorite distro (because you will be supporting it) and give it away to someone to learn Linux. There will never be a mass exodus, just install, educate, and chip away 1 user at a time.
Even if there was a perfect drop in replacement it wouldn’t change anything. People bitch and moan about windows all of the time but the reason they use it is bc that’s what came with their laptop.
Reinstalling a new OS is the biggest problem, people will learn how to do things but they won’t go out of their way to do it.
Write a BadUSB script to back up their files, nuke the drive, install mint, then repopulate the files (or just leave them a free USB with their files on it to transfer back) be the change you want to see in the world!
(For legal reasons this is a joke).
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Given this explanation, I am amazed I was able to use an iPad after having an android tablet. I had to pick new apps! Relearn the settings! In a different hardware!
I’m honestly proud of myself. Thanks.
I’m just pissed iPads don’t have NFC. We use one to clock in at work and it would save me time if I could create an NFC tag with my password but iPads have no NFC radio.
The year of the Linux desktop will happen when a large (EDIT: large, CONSUMER-FOCUSED AND CONSUMER-FRIENDLY) company decides to donate a remarkable amount of resources to the development and maintenance of a specific distro to make it user friendly and give it the feeling that someone who actually knows better than most users is taking care of important stuff in the background.
…Valve? 👀
Novell tried to do that with SuSE Linux in the early 2000’s and I’ve never forgiven them. Edit, AND did deals with Microsoft. Brr.
AND runs all windows programs right out of the box with no faffing about.
TBH: Most private users aren’t really using many programs. They are running chrome. Maybe an email client, but even that is declining. They are looking at pictures with the standard photo viewer and maybe at some PDFs and sometimes they are writing a letter and print it? Linux totally can do that.
Sure, but chances are if that’s your use case, you moved to a tablet years ago. Your photo storage is likely Facebook and Google Photos backup.
The casual people doggedly hanging onto PCs likely have some obscure software they need to run on it, either for work or personal use.
While people don’t want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.
I’ve seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.
No internet and minimum user interaction though
It’s really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won’t work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.
There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
You’re probably remembering articles stating that Southwest Airlines still uses Windows 3.1, they were floating around the tech news sites during the CrowdStrike fiasco a few months back.
Aww, too bad it’s actually fake. It was interesting yet funny. Though me remembering that goes a couple years back. It seems it’s been around for some time, probably a meme then.
Thanks for the link by the way. ^^
When new OEM PCs comes with Linux pre-installed is when stuff happens. Not before then. Windows 11 adoption will be slow cause of their exclusion of old hardware. That old hardware will be scrapped or people just keep Windows 10 on it, regardless of security warnings.
The Desktop Linux experience, with gaming and all, seems pretty close to fulfilling everyone needs at this point. But it would not surprise me if Microsoft goes around paying OEM manufacturers to not bundle anything but windows with their products.
I recently made the switch and motivated a friend who is still on win7 to go to linux. While installing and setting up his system i realised that you still need some konsole handling skills, that normal windows user not really have. To me thats normal, growing up with dos and win311, but if you started with win 2000 or later. Thats all new stuff.
I think laptops/computers that are all ready setup completely usable, should be a thing, thought.
i dont think we’ll have any large amount of preinstalls until the anticheat problem is solved
also you are just simply lying to yourself if you think desktop linux experience is fulfilling - i force my entire family to use linux and trust me the experience is not even close to being fulfilling for everyone
Anticheat is kernel compromise. No one should be using games that use that, or OSes that allow it.
As for fulfillment, unless you need very specific apps to do your job, I’m sure it can be fulfilling with the right DE and distro. For me, I’m using Linux since 1998, and I still prefer Mint over Arch, for example. It just works.
i didnt say “we need kernel anticheat on linux” i said we need a solution for it
It sounds like Valve is going to release SteamOS, so there could be a number of handhelds with Linux pre-installed soon.
2020 2021 2022 2023 20242025 !!!The windows 11 ads worked. I installed Linux a month ago and would say the transition is done and iam really happy.
I wonder how many people would notice if when upgrading from windows 10 to 11, windows is replaced by KDE themed to look like windows 11.
They will notice that their programs no longer work. .exe is not working. But my mom said: there is no longer any wait time at shutdown. She meant waiting for Windows update.
Same here.
Migrated my home studio/gaming rig to Nobara this year. The only reason I have Windows still on a drive in my PC is because the sim racing titles I enjoy (mainly iRacing) use anti-cheat and I’m also a little bit scared of bricking my expensive peripherals trying to get them working on Linux. Seems like it’s very possible, but I’m still hesitant.
That said, literally every audio peripheral I have works perfect, as well as all my VSTs. Concerning gaming, the only title in my steam library that is giving me issues is Counter Strike 2 which I’m not interested in playing right now anyway.
10/10, would recommend migrating to Nobara.
Nice to her! Which vsts do you use? Sadly i stopped doing music some years ago, but i have bitwig and some bought vsts. I wondered using them will be an issue. Like if they have an installer for windows.
I had a big Waves set for a long time but I spent a year away from home with nothing but a work laptop and got used to free and stock Reaper plugins only. I enjoyed the simplicity so much that I purged my VST list down to what I was using on that laptop. I have some Aberrant DSP, Valhalla, Voxengo, among others. Some instruments too, namely Surge XT, Cardinal, GGD Drums, Vital, Redtron Mellotron, and a couple guitar sims. That’s what I can think of right now.
The plugins install via WINE just like they do on Windows, then you sync them with Yabridge for use with your DAW. It was pretty easy to get it all running.
Near? You can install Linux right now, no need to wait for anything to happen.
And that’s because the year of the Linux desktop was when Intel started full upstream contributions of drivers.
No, I literally cannot muster the willpower to switch.
Don’t worry, they’ll drop 12 soon to make people prefer 11
Please Valve launch SteamOS, and I can be done with it
Unless Valve has said otherwise, I doubt SteamOS is going to be released for desktop. SteamOS is basically just Arch + kde plasma but with tweaks targeting the SteamDeck hardware
Is there really a significant difference between steamOS and using big picture mode + proton? I’ve had hardly any issues using steam on Ubuntu to play windows only games. Even Microsoft flight sim works despite trying it’s hardest to act like part of windows.
KDE Linux to me sounds like the desktop Linux worth waiting for - although if you are willing to put in some work, EndeavourOS is half way there and available today
Windows 11 is not that bad in the sense that a lot of its anti features are in Windows 10 now. With some work you can make it functional.
With that being said, Linux. By the time I spend trying to make Windows work I might as well use something that respects my freedom.
If they aren’t smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux
I dunno bro, I use Linux and I’m dumb af on a good day.
Filthy Windowses!
ME ??
That wasn’t a good OS either…
