Mod Visigoth_860@lemmy.cafe posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990

Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.

Update: post is locked after two more bans

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
      32·
      16 days ago

      Consider reporting it to the admins of the instance.

      I’ve done that same thing with a similar sort of instance, and mods banned the community and the moderator from their instance.

      Reporting works.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      231·
      16 days ago

      Community is called “thoughts”.

      Only one poster visigoth_860 who is also the mod.

      Am I allowed to pee in the popcorn? because I got some thoughts.

      • TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
        9·
        14 days ago

        Good riddance!

        Edit: in case you missed it and was curious what it was… it was about 6 or 7 posts all from that same guy over the span of about a year, all of which were long winded rants complaining about “ageism” and concluding that the age of consent should be lowered to 14.

  • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    421·
    16 days ago

    Sex with minors? With an age gap bigger than like 2 years, no. But close in age is fine, like 17 and 18.

    20 year olds want 15 year olds

    Uh…

    Matt Gaetz

    Oh. Oh no.

    • spireghost@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      14 days ago

      It’s amazing how easily he stretched a 20 year to 15 year age gap to Matt Gaetz, who is like 40 years old.

    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
      41·
      14 days ago

      Yeah I can tell you right now, as someone who has been a 20 year old man, they absolutely do not want to be with 15 year olds unless something is very wrong with them.

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    39·
    16 days ago

    Holy shit this person seriously is a fucked up individual.

    Does lemmy.cafe have any infrastructure for removing dangerous people from their instances?

    • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
      330·
      16 days ago

      Can I apply that logic to other hot button issues related to children making decisions about sexuality and their bodies, or would that get me banned?

      Yes this dude is fucked up, but a whole lot of you are wild hypocrites who ignore the victimization of children when it’s related to your own pet issues.

      • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
        9·
        16 days ago

        Can I apply that logic to other hot button issues related to children making decisions about sexuality and their bodies, or would that get me banned?

        Are the issues of children making decisions in the room with you?

        Are you planning to find a ragebait website with a history of misinformation and clear bias about one incident that you’ve now use as a blanket statement of your entire worldview?

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        81·
        15 days ago

        Are you comparing trans kids receiving gender affirming care to being able to have sex with adults? Because it certainly sounds like that’s what you are insinuating here. If so that is an incredibly transphobic bad faith comparison.

        What do you guys think? Personally the language used here lines up pretty well with the dogwhistles most TERFs use to attack gender affirming care like puberty blockers but I’d love to hear what you have to think.

        CC: @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works

        • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
          218·
          16 days ago

          Cute, but not at all what I’m doing. I agree fully with you that this dude is fucked in the head. I’m just sick of seeing other sick behaviour getting a pass. I want to see people keep their own personal ideas about sexuality the fuck away from children.

          Fuck me right?

          • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.devOP
            151·
            16 days ago

            From you

            wild hypocrites

            From wiki

            Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwiː/;[1] Latin for ‘you also’) is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent’s argument by attacking the opponent’s own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, so that the opponent appears hypocritical.

            You’re doing exactly that. Nobody is talking about whatever else you’re thinking about and it’s irrelevant.

                • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
                  61·
                  15 days ago

                  I’m talking about what ogmios was alluding to without ever coming out and saying. It’s a pretty common tactic with transphobes to equate supporting trans kids with letting children make adult decisions. Their “logic” is “if a fourteen year old can’t decide to fuck an adult they can’t possibly be responsible for knowing their gender doesn’t match what they were assigned at birth.”

            • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
              214·
              16 days ago

              I’m not trying to discredit you though. I’m asking you to extend your reasonable assessment of this situation to other situations which people around here remain wilfully blind too.

                • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
                  216·
                  16 days ago

                  I’m sorry if you can’t see why there’s a connection between this guy arguing for exposing children to sexuality and the exposure of children to sexuality elsewhere, but a reasonable person should be able too.

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    271·
    16 days ago

    Yah that post is gross. I’d remove it.

    There’s your reason why.

    The pedo holds the reins.

    Block the community, block the user, move on.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      15 days ago

      Should probably report this stuff to their instance admins. That way it disappears completely, that’s a better solution than pretending things don’t exist, especially when it comes to shit like this where the person is a pedophile.

      I’d also suggest letting your local instance admins know about it since once they know they can ban the user with content removal which will wipe out he community on those instances as well.

  • araneae@beehaw.org
    18·
    16 days ago

    Republicans, by boldly overlooking large quantities of sexual misconduct committed by many of their most prominent members, show horny 20 year old male voters that it’s ok. The GOP understands and tolerates them.

    Rape culture? On MY Lemmy?

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    15·
    15 days ago

    Yikes this is not good, this person probably should not be a mod of this community, or any community really. Sticking up for pedophilia is a really bad thing to do and also probably could get the instance in legal trouble. This is way past power tripping in my opinion, it could be a legal issue for the instance.

    lemmy.cafe’s admins should probably look into this and possibly kick out this mod, since it could possibly cause them some big issues later if he dos anything like this in the future.

    Edit: Archive.is Link CW: Pedophilia apologia.

    CC: @Illecors@lemmy.cafe @Gemini@lemmy.cafe @FartInTheWind@lemmy.cafe @bahmanm@lemmy.ml

    • lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.todayEnglish
      45·
      13 days ago

      this person probably should not be a mod of this community, or any community really

      That’s not possible, because it’s their own community and they’re the only poster in it. When this person inevitably gets banned and their community wiped, they’ll just register at another instance and make their own community there and continue. I don’t think that’s worth paying attention to - such behaviour just fundamentally cannot be eliminated without getting rid of the fediverse’s freedom.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        7·
        15 days ago

        Then they’ll get banned from there too, or they’ll get banned on all the big platforms and be effectively making their community irrelevant for everyone not on their instance. The thing is there are a finite number of instances and almost all of them have strict rules against this crap. If you start your own like people suggest, you still have to follow their rules or else they stop federating with you, taking the majority of the userbase with them.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    14·
    15 days ago

    I think we can say this one is about wrapped up, they banned his mod account and the community from lemmy.cafe. Maybe he’ll start another somewhere else, but when that happens someone can just make another post.

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.devOP
      15·
      16 days ago

      The part that really squicked me out was combining the drinking with the underage. Like they need to impair a naive person’s judgement even more to have a chance. No way this guy has any game.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    12·
    14 days ago

    link says couldnt_find_post

    if you wanna reiterate about a conversation online, it would be good to include screenshots of what was actually written. otherwise it’s hard to follow.

    edit: nvm i found an archive in the comments

  • Gerudo@lemm.ee
    11·
    16 days ago

    Gross. I’ve been on here since the reddit exodus. Found my first user to block.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    9·
    16 days ago

    The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn’t federate with another instance. Should I repost it here? Serious question, it’s yucky but without the content of the post it’s really hard to say something about it.

    EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.

    Anyway. I’ll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn’t a paedophile.

    What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don’t get, is:

    • consent is impaired if one person has power over another
    • the age gap gives you power

    Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.

    I won’t comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don’t care about USA internal politics.

    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
      7·
      14 days ago

      Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tries to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        6·
        14 days ago

        Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he’s defending something that is morally insane.

        Those two are not the same:

        • a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
        • a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort

        and yet he’s trying to make both look like the same.

        • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
          6·
          14 days ago

          He’s also trying to posit the idea that the left is losing elections because they won’t embrace pedophilia and that is alienating male voters. Which is an insane take.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        7·
        15 days ago

        Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he’d do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.

        In his defence, though, I don’t think that he’s a paedophile; I think that he’s just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he’s too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        3·
        16 days ago

        I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.

        Sadly I couldn’t find the content of the comments of the two banned users. That modlog calling everyone “troll” strongly hints PTB, though.

        • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
          2·
          16 days ago

          I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.

          I appreciate that. On Reddit, it can be difficult to follow the breadcrumbs as stuff just gets nuked and we have to blindly trust OP.

  • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
    91·
    16 days ago

    Either I’m banned or they don’t federate with lemm.ee

    What was the post about?

    Edit who downvotes such a question?

    • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
      9·
      16 days ago

      This /C is some dude posting his ideas, that are mostly shit, and looks like it aways come to the point of having sex with teens, no matter the subject

    • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      I downvote random posts all the time while scrolling. I like to think I usually catch it but I’m sure I miss a few. Whenever I get random downvotes on innocuous comments I just assume it’s from someone else doing the same.