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nave@lemmy.ca to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 5 months ago

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nave@lemmy.ca to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 5 months ago
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  • djsoren19@yiffit.net
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    It’s wild that the U.K. doesn’t teach the Odyssey, I thought their whole thing was stealing other peoples’ culture and pretending they owned it now.

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      Is it even taught in the US? 🤔

      I didn’t read it for school. I just liked reading and had this gnarly book featuring all the greatest hits of Greek mythology growing up.

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        I read it for school

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          Literally a part of a classical education. As in Classical.

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        Definitely was in the rural, redneck school I went to.

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        My 10th grade English class studied a small section of it, like one self contained story.

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      I’ve heard of Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, does that count?

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        That translation has fallen out of favor with contemporary scholars but you get the gist.

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      Just looked it up, the Odyssey can be taught in the UK but it is rarely chosen because Shakespeare is easier to teach and students who pick Shakespeare get better grades on average.

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        Odd that it’s a choice between them. We learned Shakespeare and Homer where I am in the US.

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          In the UK secondary students study 3 bits of literature for the exam, modern (20th century+), victorian and classical which is everything before then, I think that’s how it works but that’s just from memory

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        We don’t like to brag about it but we fought the Brits in the War of 1812, one of the things we took from England was Greek literature. In turn, we Americans lost the definition of jams vs jelly and the superior spelling of “colour”.

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      Not in secondary school but I did the Illiad, the Anaed, the Odyssey and Ovids Metamorphoses in 6th form college.

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      I did study it at school but had to take Classical Civilisation for one of my GCSE options. Our default in English Literature was a Shakespeare work as previously mentioned (Merchant of Venice for me). I also recall studying An Inspector Calls?

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    When the only Homer they know is Homer Simpson.

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      Fun fact: the voice actor for Homer Simpson also voiced Homer (the Greek one) in the Disney Hercules animated series.

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      Even The Simpsons covered the Odyssey at some point though.

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    $10 says the dipshit in question did a frantic google, saw ‘ulysses’ and went james joyce.

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      Still not American though

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        Getting closer at least

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          …the US is not closer to the UK than Ireland though…

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    I have to admit that I have not read the Illias or the Odyssey in school, either. We were made read books in school intendet to make children shy away from books, so they won’t touch any of them after school ever again.

    Luckily I had read loads of good books by that time, so I knew that only a few are as horrible as the ones they made us read in school.

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      It does feel a lot like that, doesn’t it? Why else would the Bronte sisters be on the curriculum if not to snuff out any interest in literature?

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        It could be worse. We read Brecht and Kafka. Several works of them. I’ve never encountered worse waste of paper and ink than those idiots. And the rest was not much better.

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      the illias and the odyssey are ancient greek literature, I don’t think they’re that fun to read.

      But, you still should be taught about their existence in history.

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        They were more fun to read than the sh-t the forced down our throats in school. At least Homer knew how to write a story.

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    Liam’s a tool. UK schools absolutely do teach the Odyssey, and have done so at least as far back as my youth.

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      Mine didn’t. We did Buddy, The Crucible, Animal Farm and Shakespeare from what I remember. First I heard of the Odyssey was when I was 19 and DW did a retelling of it on Arthur. When I saw a copy of the story in the shop I worked at, I got it so I could read the actual story.

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        Were you not aware of it at any point? I don’t necessarily mean as part of the GCSE curriculum. I’ve been aware of the Odyssey and the Iliad from the “Ancient Greeks” part of our primary school curriculum back in year 4. Of course we weren’t analysing texts, but I’d expect any ten year old to be capable of rattling off some major plot points like blinding Polyphemus, or sailors plugging their ears with wax against the sirens and tying Odysseus to the mast.

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          Nope, I don’t think I’d ever heard of it prior to the Arthur version.

          We did the fall of Icarus in Year 3. My little sister learned Theseus and the Minotaur when she was around the same age, which is how I knew about it. Other than that, I don’t remember studying Ancient Greek anything, not even Heracles. Your school was obviously better than mine.

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    I prefer to watch it in its original Japanese.

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      I’m partial to the one set in rural Mississippi during the Great Depression.

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    Wait… some people don’t know the Odyssey?

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      They don’t teach it in my country. I read it on my own.

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    "the world doesn’t revolve around your country"country Said the user from UK.

    Silly anglophone countries, the world actually revolves around the chad mediterranean

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    The Illiad and the Odyssey are classics and hardly American culture. They are western culture as a whole. No idea what the drama is about but some dude not knowing what the Odyssey is, is the same as not knowing any other classic. (There are too many to count, but not knowing the most popular ones are is like not knowing the titanic sank.) (Spoilers)

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      That’s the joke.

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    is this why the miniseries is trending on some torrent sites?? haha!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(1997_miniseries)

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      It was also just announced that Christopher Nolan’s next film will be the Odyssey

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      Probably trending because of the musical tbh , it’s been pretty popular in some circles.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The American version has more Laser-shark-launching gun-swords though fewer exposed boobs.

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    What! He never saw Wishbone’s the Odyssey?

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    Just play “Age of Mythology”. Duh.

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    …may we see the tweets?

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        thankies 💚

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      Rude tweets? At this time of year?

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    Meanwhile on tiktok British people are apparently mad at Americans for not knowing or caring about Robbie Williams

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        What insane revisionist history cope. Robbie tried multiple times to crack the US but was soundly rejected by American audiences every time.

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