• Lumiluz@slrpnk.net
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    6 hours ago

    Don’t know much about this, but some experts have this to say on Pitbulls: https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/are-pit-bulls-dangerous-experts-set-the-record-straight-on-these-lovable-dogs/ar-AA1nG7F5

    Out of curiosity, I tried looking up info on the attack/fatality rate of pitbulls outside of the USA (assuming Pitbulls are dangerous because the culture of the USA views them as such and this they are raised to be) but couldn’t find much.

    The only one I found quickly was that they gave a high incidence of attacks in Japan as well, but the owners tend to be Yakuza or other gang members, so yeaaahhh…

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      4 hours ago

      Shitty people raise shitty dogs. Other shitty people see this and want a dog that “looks badass” and proceed to raise more shitty dogs. Of course, nobody will step forward and tell you that they raised a shitty dog, so you really can’t properly study this in a large group experiment.

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    As someone whos dog got killed by a pitbull and i got injured trying to save her a very pleasant you can suck my big sweaty cock to all pitbull owners. Without a license and training you shouldnt be able to own a dog that is meant for killing. Ever since that every time i see a big dog the first thing i think of is if it attacks me how can i kill that fucker. So yeah i dont give a fuck and even before that happened i supported the ban of those dogs because multiple times ive heard from distant family and friends horror stories about attacks. I know a girl who was 8 when she was attacked and she needed plastic surgery all over her thigh and face after an attack and my sister and mom(whos thankfully a doctor so she could help before the ambulance arrived) were there to witness it. I dont think you wanting to own a big dog is a reason to endager others health and lives. Anyone supporting the right to own one of those killing machines is off the rails. They are literally bread to kill.

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      7 hours ago

      The Venn diagram of people who own pit bulls and people that own lifted trucks that they can’t drive is almost a circle.

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      As a gun owner the idea that people are ok with pitbulls but have a problem with me pisses me off. For anything bad to happen with a gun requires human agency. I actually have the capacity to know I’m not going to harm an innocent person today. But a pitbull, their owners are openly playing a lottery. Every time you walk out side with it its like me muzzle sweeping everyone in my community with my finger on a trigger saying “I’ve done it lots of times and nothing bad has happened. It didn’t hurt you this time so mind your own business. My choices don’t effect you. It’s not my fault if your kids are scared of me pointing my gun around. My kids aren’t going to get hurt in my home if I practice poor gun safety. See, they love playing with it. That’s proof it’s kid friendly”

      As dangerous as a gun and with less certain human control over it is not acceptable. I’ll straight up say it. I feel as uncomfortable around a pitbull owner as someone mishandling a gun. And in the gun world if someone is willfully and blazenly mishandling a firearm to the point of endangering people you have a license to shoot them if they aren’t responsive to someone telling them to stop (non-lethally ideally).

      I don’t know about licenses but if you own a pitbull people should openly tell you you are the asshole that you are.

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        7 hours ago

        While im against guns, pitbulls are literally probably more dangerous than guns when “used accidentally”. Its no mistake that both my dog and the kid that got attacked got bit on the face and thigh as pitbulls always go for the kill. If you accidentally discharge a gun it has a chance of hitting a vital point and a chance of missing and a chance of hitting a less vital point of your body. If youre alone and an average person a pitbulls gonna kill you. If your alone with a gun it doesnt do anything.

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            Uh yeah, you’re off by a factor of about 50-fold.

            This is just fatalities and not counting permanently disfiguring injuries of which there are a ton more. Pitbulls account for the vast majority of these serious injuries and fatalities despite being only 6% of the dog population.

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    The white trash potato caricature is hilarious. Pit bulls are a dangerous breed. They were selectively bred by humans for their aggression, unpredictability, jaw strength, overall strength, pain tolerance, etc.

    I live in a poor area that is full of these dogs. The issue is exacerbated so much by people with nothing to their name so they need a status symbol to appear tough. It’s really sad.

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      I always get confused for a few moments when I see these dog breed/ghetto hatred comments, but then I realize it’s just steeped in closeted racism/classism. It’s really sad.

      edit: should check out @moonpiedumplings@programming.dev’s comment here. Basically has done the work and narrates what someone actually researching and looking at studies would find if you do it correctly.

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      11 hours ago

      Do you think those people who feel the need to have a certain type of dog to look tough might also treat that dog a certain way to make it aggressive?

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        10 hours ago

        To piggyback, there’s a reason these animals are referred to as “the nursery dog” too. Pit bulls are incredibly sweet and protective. They will take care of your children as long as you treat them right

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          I have no real comment on the aggressiveness of pitbulls. I have a dog we think is a dalmatian/pitbull mix and she’s terrified of pretty much any humans other than us and a handful of others (she is especially afraid of men), which might look like aggression from a distance, but she would run away the second they got closer to her.

          On the other hand, she’s a serial killer of small animals and she recently got in a fight with our other dog (she’s 11 and grumpy and in pain from bad arthritis) and tore his ear. So she certainly can be aggressive.

          On the other other hand, we used to have a roommate with a purebred dalmation and she was super aggressive.

          So is the aggression she does show because of the pitbull part of the mix? The dalmatian part? Is it just her? I have no idea.

          I do know I found a dog at the shelter who needed a loving home and I gave it to her. Which is the only way anyone should get a dog at this point.

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    I’m an owner of a rescue dog with behavioral problems, and I am fortunate to say that the only person my dog has ever bitten after I adopter her is me. It takes a lot of work and effort, and I am absolutely certain she would bite other people under the right circumstances. Problem is, most dog owners are not like me.

    Granted my rescue dog is a small Chihuahua mix, so at worse, she might break skin on your finger or heels and leave a small scar.

    Very different circumstances than if she were a big dog.

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    Well, she’s a bad owner for not taking into account the specific needs of her apex predator; like a lot of physical activity and access to a fresh Weyland-Yutani crew on a regular basis.

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    19 hours ago

    If we did domesticate xenomorphs, we’d have to make artificial “hosts” for the facehuggers to implant an egg in. Since the xenos apparently incorporate some DNA from the host, we could even make custom ones!

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      My headcanon (in which only the first two Alien movies count) is that Xenomorph queens normally aren’t much bigger than regular Xenomorphs, but the one in Aliens was huge because she incubated inside the Space Jockey.

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      I’ll have you know that Lamar has been de-beaked and will only cuddle with your head.

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    I love pitbulls. Some of the sweetest dogs I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with were pitbulls. I have only ever been aggressively attacked and bitten by small poorly trained yipyip dogs.

    I have been bitten by bigger breed by accidentally stepping on their foot or tail, but I can’t hold those dogs responsible for my mistake and their evolutionary response.

    I have been around big dogs for most of my life. One thing I will tell you is that any dog will let go of any bite if you shove a finger up it’s ass. I have helped some neighbors who had wolf dogs latched onto their arm get released with the ol finger up the ass trick.

    Stay safe out there.

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      Your neighbor had multiple wolf dogs latched onto them? And you managed to put a finger in each of their assholes simultaneously or serially?

      I like pits by virtue of being a dog, but I’m not confused about how dangerous they are. Some can be sweet and moderately trustworthy with training and constant constant supervision. And ideally a side arm.

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        She had two wolf/husky dog hybrids and they started fighting randomly while we were talking in her driveway. She stupidly tried to break them up by sticking her arm between them. Well one of them latched on her fore arm and wouldn’t let go. She screamed and I quickly grabbed the dogs scruff with one hand and sent the ol index on a butthole excursion.

        Dog yelped and let her am go before it scurried off. I can’t remember if she needed stitches or not but we wrapped her arm up and I think her wife took her to the hospital later that evening. She was fine after a couple weeks. They ended up getting rid of the dogs. She decided she wasn’t the right owner for those dogs. She was right lol.

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      Yes, that’s the whole point. It’s dumb to allow people to own dangerous animals. Same reason we don’t let people keep hyenas in their backyard.

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        So does this apply only to pittbulls or does it apply to rottweilers, dobermans, huskies, chows, presa canario, bull mastiffs, dalmations, german shepherds, malanois, labs, and any other breed that is large enough to hurt you and also “known” to be aggressive (as in “some people have bred some of them to be fighting, security, or police dogs sometimes, or some have been reported for biting when small dogs wouldn’t be”)?

        https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/are-pitbulls-dangerous/

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          Yes. 100 percent, absolutely, no doubts, yes. If your dog is over (a very arbitrary, but we can drop it lower) 1 stone (for the brits), 20 lbs (for the amerikkans), or 8 kilos (for the euros intelligent worlders), you should have to have a significant insurance policy on the dog (I think my local authority sets the ‘dangerous dog’ minimum at $100 grand), a license that can only be obtained with at least 6 months training, and a yearly inspection of your facilities and the dog.

          Reasoning: I’ve had to patch up, or take the parts with us, too many folks who have been bit.