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        Meh I think they might be overestimating their market position if that’s the strategy

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          I think they’re in a better position than Microsoft when they tried to make ActiveX and Silverlight a thing. They own the two most visited websites. On top of that, they own the most used web browser and the most used operating system (judged by web use).

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    Firefox is loving every week of this as they head towards launch. Market share is guaranteed to improve.

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        Nah, I’ve seen people who were hard chrome users start to change their tune about it. A few even changed over to Firefox. Now I understand that my sample size is people I know, but even my wife asked me “how can I stop the youtube ads stuff” after noticing that I don’t have to deal with that bullshit… and she’s not tech literate at all.

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          The issue is that most people will just end at “well I guess I can’t block ads anymore”.

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            Yep. Just like everyone that was going to leave Netflix when they axed account sharing, but then just made their own accounts and went on with life. I’d see a similar thing playing out here for all but the more technical users who may start switching.

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              Hey, if it makes you feel any better, Netflix started blocking me from sharing an account with my parents, and we cancelled the account and didn’t make any new ones.

              Although, if they still had disc deliveries, my parents would probably have kept the account.

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        It’s not really about giving a shit, but when you’re used to no ads, then seeing ads is an inconvenience. And that’s usually even more potent than people giving a shit or not

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        I switched to FF on mobile a few months back and I finally switched to FF on desktop earlier today.

        I had been a chrome user for maybe 15 or 20 years? I don’t actually remember when chrome came out but I started using it shortly after.

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      The problem is Firefox is not really an independant organisation; (it’s not independant from Google).

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    My 5 years old decided to switch to Firefox after I told him google chrome will not block ads on YouTube anymore.

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      That’s the iq it takes yeah. :)

      Not saying anything bad about your son, hopefully you understand what I mean.

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        I’ll never understand why so many people seem to be afraid of change. To me change is exciting, something new to explore, a chance to learn something new.

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          It will happen as you get older. You might not even realize it, and it will start with disliking changes that are objectively bad. But soon it will be changes that are neutral, and eventually changes that are positive but not very positive.

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    Firefox isn’t an “alternative browser.”

    I didn’t think Google would play the evil card, but don’t trust the ad blocking abilities of software made by an advertising company, I guess.

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      What do you mean by not an alternative browser?
      Are you trying to say something about the word choice or…?
      Chrome is an alternative browser to Firefox too.

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        yes, i think he is speaking about the word itself. it is terrible that it is gaining negative connotation… like when people say bullshit like “alternative facts” or “alternative medicine” and the word itself slowly starts to look slightly suspicious just because it is used by morons.

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        It’s not an alternative, it’s the browser you should use

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      Of course it’s the alternative. Has always been, even before it was called Firefox: Netscape Navigator is the alternative to Mosaic. Fun fact: Internet Explorer was a fork of Mosaic. All of Chrome, Edge and Safari are descendants of KHTML.

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    How is this even legal? So now suddenly every chromium extension has to go through a play store style review? How is Google entitled to do this on their competitor’s browsers?

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      They can do it if a competitor has forked Chromium but not bothered to provide their own addon store. For example, Edge supports its own store plus Google, Vivaldi only supports Google

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    I switched to FireFox slightly before all this Adblock-Drama came up. Simply because i realised Chrome was getting ridiculously slow ._.

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    How is it still a problem for anyone? I haven’t used Google in years and I am unexpectedly still alive

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      We have prescribed terminals in our classrooms that are wiped between classes and only have chrome included. It’s a fuckin’ pain to have to load uBlock in each class in each section every day, because for some reason, our uni’s IT department only supports chrome.

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        Are you able to access anything like USB drives? There are portable versions of Firefox you can carry around with you.

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          Yeah, I have ‘em, but links still default to fuckin’ chrome, which makes “impromptu” PowerPoint supplements awkward.

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            There are also portable Version of libre office for Windows, which you can configure to open in Firefox.

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          Nah, they went with the route of least resistence. Gotta remember, they’re dealing with thousands of students (college aged kids now just don’t use computers the same way and don’t want to learn how to, at large) and faculty (people who may be doing this job for decades and refuse to learn computers beyond the minimal requirement).

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            This reminds me of years ago when I was trying to get my grandma off of Internet Explorer.

            The only thing that worked in the end was adding a shortcut to the desktop and changing its icon to IE’s. For a lot of younger people, or older folk who resisted computers until the 2010s, Chrome is the internet, the same way my grandma thought IE was the internet.

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        Well let’s say they shouldn’t for many reasons, the most obvious being Google’s systematic push at harvesting every last data about your life. In my country, many schools ban chrome from their devices for this very reason

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    What happened to the ad blocker detection thing a month ago. Did Google remove it or does uBlock Origin have a permanent workaround now rather than needing to clear cache and reload?

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      It’s still an ongoing war, but with Manifest V3, Google will have an advantage over adblockers because they will be in full control over the frequency of extension updates, how many ad blocking rulesets they’ll allow, and perhaps when no one is looking, prevents those rulesets from targeting their own domains. The latter is the nuclear option that’ll instantly piss off the whole tech world if implemented now, but perhaps slow boiled frogs won’t notice it once the heat is high enough.

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        Setting up a huge privacy lawsuit by trying to force us to allow these horrendous advertising tracking scripts.

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      They regularly try to add things to break it, and uBlock’s devs update it as fast as possible. They’ll probably slow down on these breaking changes as it falls out of the spotlight and people slowly forget about it.

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      Google is disallowing “remote code” in extensions and classifying blocklists (the lists of urls that ad blockers use to know what to block, which are just text files hosted on remote servers like github) as remote code. As a result, any blocklist updates will need to go through the extension review process, which typically takes anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks.

      Google often updates YouTube’s ad delivery on a daily basis. Blocklists must also update as frequently to keep ads blocked on YT. If Google requires that blocklists go through the review process, they can drag their feet and essentially render the ad blockers useless even if they have to allow them to stay in the extension store.