• thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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      because the one who won the primaries isn’t the one who the dnc actually likes. dnc establishment is thinking of having cuomo running as an independent against him. so, ‘vote blue no matter who’ has now been turned around on those jackasses who kept shoving shit condidates down our throats.

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    Isn’t this how change happens?

    But voting for who you believe in in the primaries and your preferred party in the general?

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        The DNC doesn’t pick the candidates. We do. In the primaries. That’s what primaries are.

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          The problem isn’t the “DNC” it’s the Democratic establishment. That includes all their operatives in media that help keep the masses in check. The sad fact is that not enough voters pay that much attention. The vast majority of the time, the establishment gets their pick.

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            They don’t get their pick. The relentless retirees do, if the working class doesn’t participate in the primaries. I’ve volunteered many times over the last 25 years. The elderly come in droves. They also have very different needs than the working class.

            Congressional primaries see less than 15% turnout. The 2025 NYC Mayoral Democratic primary saw 30%, up from 21% in 2021. That’s all it took to make a difference.

            This is something voters need to own. Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule. Research the candidates in the primary and vote.

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              You’re not wrong, but where do the retirees get their news? Most of the retirees I know are all way to manipulated by cable news, and that is nothing but 24x7 establishment propaganda.

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            What are you talking about? He lost the Democratic nomination to Mamdani. Now he has to run as an independent.

            Primaries are held by parties. It’s not entrance into the general election. Anyone with the cash can run as any party they choose. The DNC and RNC have too many contenders, so they run primaries to let us pick their candidates. That’s what primary elections are.

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              What are you talking about? He lost the Democratic nomination to Mamdani. Now he has to run as an independent.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect

              He knows exactly what he’s doing

              Primaries are held by parties. It’s not entrance into the general election. Anyone with the cash can run as any party they choose.

              Yep, and a losing candidate can choose to participate in the general to ensure the opposing party wins by splitting the vote, which is what the establishment Dems do when a progressive successfully primaries the…

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              And how much do you want to bet he will be backed and supported by the DNC during his ‘independent’ campaign?

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                If anything, they’d give Adams money. They occasionally fund spoilers, just like the RNC. Even though Adams is on the Republican ticket, he’s more likely to be the spoiler in the general election.

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            We literally just picked the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor. What about that is confusing to you? If the DNC didn’t want him, they shouldn’t have allowed him in the primary. That part is over now. Zohran Mamdani is the Democratic candidate. That’s how primaries work. Stop misinforming people. Most are uninformed on the process as it is.

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            You realise you can present historical actions that support your argument without being a complete bellend about it, right?

            For example, in 2015 Bernie Sanders was becoming a hot favourite to become the public’s new pin-up boy for the 2016 presidential run. Unfortunately for him, it is alleged that the DNC had already banked on Hilary Clinton being the primary winner, so their plan may have had it’s legs done before they even started.

            So, it is widely reported that the DNC provided very little support to Sanders for the remainder of his campaign run, while pouring big money and organising competing support behind Clinton, stacking the odds in her favour.

            In this instance, history tells us that whereas a candidate may be supremely popular, they may not end up getting the support of the political party they represent.

            (The above is a massive oversimplification to fit into a bite sized lemmy post, so points of discussion are expected)

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              The reality is very few people vote in primaries and, as you’ve just read in this thread, many don’t even know what primaries are.

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            Comments like this are always from people who are ignorant, or people that aren’t even in the US.

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              Or people who have been through more than one election cycle and have seen how far the establishment will go to tank a candidate they don’t like in favor of a milquetoast conservative that will lose to a real conservative in the general.

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    Apparently some need education on what a primary is.

    They were all running to “be the blue.” This is how WE pick the candidates that run for the Democratic Party. Yes. That’s right. They’re not selected by the DNC as many believe.

    Congressional primaries see less than 15% turnout, yet people love to complain about the career centrists. Well, this is EXACTLY how it’s done.

    Mamdani won because WE SHOWED UP. Stop letting retirees with nothing but time on their hands pick our candidates and VOTE FOR PROGRESSIVES IN THE PRIMARIES.

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        Oh I totally missed that. Thanks. Too many people still ignorantly commenting about how the DNC picks all the candidates, after NYC just proved that it’s always been about us showing up, has me on the defense. My bad.

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        They don’t “take the message.” It’s not a suggestion. They run a primary and we select their nomination. That’s what primary elections are. Have you never voted in a primary before?

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            Ok. Give me some examples of candidates winning the Democratic primary and getting dropped off the ballot by the DNC.

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              It’s not about being dropped, it’s about the cash not coming from the DNC, and then other DNC allies contributing to the independent candidate. Mamdani will be the (D) on the ballot. It does not mean that the DNC will give him one cent if they don’t like his politics.

              Seems like people are talking past each other here. He will be representing the DNC on the ticket, and the DNC is likely to provide absolutely no support to him, as he doesn’t match what “they” “wanted”.

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      Nah. We’re taking it over. Thirty years of retirees picking our candidates in the primaries gave us the centrist party. People are finally waking up and turning out.