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    The Last Jedi.

    I left the theatre angry that they spent enough money to take mankind back to the moon on something that stupid.

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      I can’t leave it at that. I have to add some details.

      Both the empire and the rebels repeatedly made tactical decisions so stupid a five-year old would know better. The opening battle involved sending unprotected bombers against a ship with anti-bomber defences and keeping the enemy commander talking on the phone to delay his response. That works in a Mel Brooks movie, not in Star Wars.

      They killed a fan-favourite character off-screen. What, was the puppet too old to reprise its role?

      The empire’s main guy decided to chase the rebels down instead of destroying them immediately. For fun, I guess.

      Phasma’s a badass. Except that she capitulates at the first sign of personal danger.

      All Holdo had to say was “yes, there’s a plan. Not telling you what because of operational secrecy”. Instead she expected Poe to blindly follow orders when he’d already shown he couldn’t do that.

      “Oh no, the sacred texts!” …that you attempted to burn a moment ago.

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        All Holdo had to say was “yes, there’s a plan. Not telling you what because of operational secrecy”. Instead she expected Poe to blindly follow orders when he’d already shown he couldn’t do that.

        Well, he did fine following orders in the first movie, and then they changed the entire character in the second movie but kept the same name. I have no idea why they did that.

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        I highly highly recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuDTnMPMgc

        I think you’ll like it a lot. I realized that bathos is what I hated about the Last Jedi. They killed so many truly deep moments to have stupid jokes. They couldn’t let anything just be serious. It ruined the tone of the movie, couldn’t decide if they wanted to be a comedy or a drama, and so they did neither.

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        You expect a movie director only interested in pretty scenes to write a good plot!?

        … your name must be Kathleen Kennedy…

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            Yes, and she gave Ryan Johnson full control and backed up his lameass girlboss and “subverting expectation” BS in pressers after.

            She even joined in on calling everyone that said the sucky movie sucked misogynists.

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              I don’t think this is entirely accurate. I know ultimately Kathleen called a lot of the shots and was very meddling in the production and I thitk Ryan was trying to do something original after seeing what a superficial piece of garbage TFA was. Ryan is actually a good writer / director.

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      And yet… it’s my favorite post-OT movie. It could’ve used another draft to tighten a couple things up here and there, but it was good.

      Now… TRoS is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen in my life and is the only Star Wars property I’ve only seen a single time and never will watch again. Hell I watched Book of Boba Fett twice. Shit, I’ve watched In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale twice. I’d have to go back to Battlefield Earth to think of an equally terrible film.

      But when watching The Last Jedi I feel nothing but joy.

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        No, the horses were in Rise of Skywalker.

        The Last Jedi was the one with the “Can you hear me now?” gags, and Luke tossing the lightsaber away.

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      I see why they made it but really the ip must be toxic because there’s no reason they cant make these movies.

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          I can.

          Luke’s arc is exactly as he predicted back in Empire and ROTJ. He found peace and defeated his foe using the force in a peaceful way and helped them escape in redemption. Redemption from the horrific way he wanted to kill his disciple out of fear.

          Rey and Kylo had legitimate struggles with who they were. A character arc of not knowing who was truly bad or good and the internal struggles with figuring that out.

          The battle scene with the imperial guards with Rey and Kylo was one of the best cinematic battle scenes in Star Wars for me.

          The vision quest of Rey was legit eye opening on her character and not foreshadowing anything. Great way to tell a story.

          The flashbacks with Kylo and Luke changing what happened throughout the story was a good story telling device. I forget what story type it is, but it see saws 3 times until we find out what really happens.

          I know it’s not a popular opinion. But I do enjoy this movie so much more than the prequels in terms of execution and emotional connection.