• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    Why the fuck would anybody install an APP to use a website?

    (Puts on clown face) “Sure, I’ll install this program on my pocket computer from the Urban Dictionary to save the time it would take me to open a web browser and type in the URL of it, all it costs is me giving direct access to my stored personal data and real-time activities”

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      The state of people blindly using apps for everything is atrocious.

      “But it saves me a 1USD on my fast food burger!”

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        Fast food charges you around double if you don’t use the app. I think it’s mostly about tiered pricing. They want the money from those willing to pay $15 for a burger AND they still want the money from people who won’t pay more than $10. This way they get both.

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          Fast food charges you around double if you don’t use the app.

          In the US, I guess? Not where I come from

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            In Italy it’s also like this

            You literally pay double the price if you order without using the coupons found in the app for McDonald’s, Burger King and KFC

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          Makes sense. I don’t eat fast food, so I didn’t know. But no way am I installing apps for… basically any commercial thing.

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            Same here, but I do eat fast food on occasion. Their small discounts are not worth enough to compromise my phone’s integrity and my privacy.

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              Wendy's order through app showing around a 45% discount.

              It’s not a small discount. Of course just using the app isn’t the only hoop. You also have to order correctly to maximize the discount.

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            Those kind of apps have a special place on my phone: petercxy’s shelter (don’t install it from play store because in order to meet the Google requirements it has been nerfed). Apps installed there use a dedicated throwaway Google account and are completely disabled with a toggle on my launcher. (Lawnchair 2 has a toggle in the drawer for it)

            If an app is installed in shelter it’s on a completely separate partition and can’t access any file or photo on your main one. And once you quit, they are all disabled like if the phone is turned off

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        McDonald’s charges a lot more without the app tho

        fun fact: McDonald’s app has tighter “security” than my bank app and won’t even work on rooted devices

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          LOL! Glad I’m not the only one who thinks the Mickie app is locked down

          McDonalds needs updates more often than my credit card app…

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          It absolutely will work on a rooted device. Mine is rooted and it works fine. Also, in my experience (maybe this is just in my area) outside of the points perk, prices are the same between the app and physically at the store as I have checked out of curiosity.

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            there are bundles and deals which are only available in the app, usually you can save like 50% with them
            depends on the region i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            e.g. I could either get a big mac for like 22zl? or big mac + medium fries + any sauce for 16zl, or a cheeseburger for 30% of it’s price + 300 points (which you literally get back, exact amount for your order)

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      eh, if the app is actually native and i use it a lot I’d rather have it installed…
      Don’t see the point of WebView/web apps packaged as mobile ones tho…

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        And that’s why your phone’s probably fucked up. Just install whatever, for the alleged convenience. But you already have a web browser, and you could simply make a bookmark to the website you visit frequently.

        I get 3 days of battery life between charges on my phone without all that kind of bullshit on there. Running GrapheneOS on a supported Pixel with sandboxed Google Play services and zero social media apps that are not open source.

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          My phone runs fine. I use some apps, and many others I use websites. My ebooks, music, podcasts, and video stuff uses apps, as well as some games, my banking app, and this lemmy app. I don’t use apps for just about every other social media (mostly because I barely use em), for many websites etc. Email I do use the apps, as well as my robovac, and some other communication based ones. Also MFA apps.

          Use of apps can be decided on a per use basis, as long as the person knows the possible issues stemming from them. It doesn’t need to be all or nothing, and your solution doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. It doesn’t make you better than them, nor them better than you, just different. Stop assuming everyone should do things like you do.

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      Here’s a real reason: It’s generally more optimized and smooth than the web version. And before you say that’s because the websites purposely nerf themselves, one of the best examples to support my statement is Mastodon, which is slow and laggy on the website but fast and smooth in the app.

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        But this urban dictionary app looks like some webapp. Also this slight smoothness costs your personally identifiable data for such apps

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      Especially with Firefox and derivatives allowing you to run the webpage in an app-like way! I do this for everything from the public transit website in my city to financial sites.

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    How else are they supposed to provide ads that are relevant to the 2.3Km/h you are walking on day 17 of walking?

    Critical data they are missing there for the advertising partners.

    :P

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    Why do people have the need to install an app on your phone that has access to everything when it does the same thing the browser on your phone will do?

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        Maybe it doesn’t pass through? Some apps need permission for camera and library, the camera would in theory give access to library like the keyboard to accelerometer as well, but that’s changed in recent months.

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          No, the camera and library permissions always have been separate, it’s just that Apple’s official camera app integrates them. Think about it, one’s hardware and the other one’s basically software.

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            In the last few months you’ve had to give permission to both, so that’s not true at all. Before you never had to give permission individually.

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      I know I’m speaking for an older and non-Apple hill here, but why the fuck is undo mapped to a gesture?

      Speaking anecdotally now, I can’t remember the last time I used the undo feature on a mobile device that wasn’t in an image manipulation app, and there’s usually an onscreen button for that.

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        For me personally, I use it when I’m using speech-to-text and unable to type/use the keyboard because of whatever else is in my hands, and I’m walking somewhere.

        It’s a very niche feature tbh, but convenient to have when I’m in the niche.

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          Nah that’s cool, I’m not wholly against the feature - in fact it’s great to hear real life use cases. I hadn’t even considered the accessibility element of things either, so that’s cool too.

          It just seems from the outset to be an over engineered answer to a question nobody asked.

          Cheers for your insight though!

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            The reason they made it a wanking gesture is in case you’re texting your ex while wanking with your phone in your hand.

            The original idea was to undo all the texts you’d already sent. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen constraints on the nature of spacetime, Apple was unable to deliver on their text-message-undo promises, and went for typing-undo instead.

            Then they never changed the gesture, and it’s still wankery to this day! Just a little bit of tech history for you there.

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        Shake your phone and undo everything you just typed? Faster than selecting and deleting or backspacing.

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        By default, it’s just undo text input when you either do a special swipe or tap the back, useful in e.g. the web browser. However applications can hook into this functionality to do their own stuff when the gesture is called.

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      accelerometer does not require a permission to use, typing is provided by a 3rd party keyboard app.
      nvm this is ios