I disagree with this article.
I do all my development on the cheapest macbook air (M1 with 8GB of RAM). It was $500, which is cheaper than most Windows workstations. I’ve never noticed performance issues, and I work on some absolute monsters of projects, including game dev in Rust and Godot. It works waaaay better for Rust and TypeScript dev than my $3k Dell (fuck Dell), because unlike my Dell laptop it doesn’t crash every 3 hours and the battery lasts longer than 30 minutes.
But can it compile UE4 from source?
I try not compile things unnecessarily when a plugin would be just as good. Waste not want not. 🤷
Not trying to kink shame, I just don’t get off on wasting CPU cycles for no reason. You do you.
Please do educate me on as to how to get Unreal Engine 4 as a “plugin” (of what?) without building it.
The only ways I see to get UE4 on Linux is to install the AUR, which compiles from source, or Compile it with your own settings from the GitHub project.
Sorry, that didn’t work last time I tried.
Just because you can get away with 8 does not mean you should. Go google around and find just how cheap an additional 8 gb of laptop RAM is these days.
Just because you can buy 64GB of RAM doesn’t mean you need it. Laptops these days are more powerful than supercomputers used to be. If you just spend a little time tuning your applications you barely need any RAM.
I daily drove a laptop with 8gb of RAM less than a year ago. Works just fine for most tasks. Granted, at Apples typical price point, I’d want more than that, but it is far from unusable. Running VMs wasn’t fun though.
How did you do that? My laptop is at 14gb now and I am not using it (typing on phone)
my 3 year old phone has more RAM than that
And I’m here contemplating upgrading to 32 GB…
I built a gaming PC for the first time since ~20 years ago. Decided to dump 64gb into it for no good reason other than ram is cheap and I figured I might as well.
8gb…jeebus.
Yup. My MacBook Pro for work has 16GB and I keep running out of RAM. I can’t fathom being limited to 8GB…
I guess it works for basic browsing and whatnot, but for any kind of professional work, you’re going to have a bad time.
Apple has their niche, but you’ll never find me owning a Mac. They are not useful for me. And fuck the proprietary nature of Apple in general.
That being said, I run 64GB of RAM and it’s glorious!
Yup, I have a Mac for work and I’m not a fan, I don’t even like the look of them, much less the UX. The keyboards suck, they don’t have actual mouse buttons on their laptops (I really miss my middle mouse button), and the gestures on the trackpad annoy me. I use a Logitech mouse (MX Master 3 at work, Triathlon at home), and both are way nicer than anything I’ve used from Apple.
I much prefer my Linux machines at home. They don’t lock up, my laptop (Lenovo ThinkPad) has real mouse buttons and the Trackpoint, the package manager just works, and updates don’t take forever and a day like on macOS. Oh, and I use Docker for work, and on Linux it uses far fewer resources because I don’t need a full VM.
Oh, and I can easily add more RAM to both of my Linux machines. I am not interested in any Apple products, and them selling with 8gb RAM just makes no sense to me since memory upgrades are so expensive and must be done at the time of purchase. So screw em.
It’s totally so they can list a really low “starting at” price and then upsell marked up parts in the configurator.
Disclaimer: I didn’t read the article and just came in to shit on scummy business practices that I made assumptions about.
Your assumption is based and factual
“Nobody needs more than 64k of memory.”
A much quoted comment but often misunderstood.
No one needed more than 64k of memory at the time, and that was true they didn’t need more at the time.
Adding more memory than you actually need doesn’t do anything it just sits there taking up an expansion port and doing nothing. It’s like having a multi-core processor and then running single core apps, there’s no point.
The ramifications of Apple standardizing on-die RAM are going to be felt all over.
Less is more, removing features is a innovation - apple
and selling it with an extra apple logo is the newest thing.
removing features is
innovationcourage.
Pretty sure my phone has 8GB of RAM. Apple should probably rethink this.
My mid-range smartphone from 2022 has 8gb of ram. I paid $250 for it brand new.
Do you have a Kimovil link for this incredible phone?
Poco x3 pro 8/256, and it have 3.5 jack and microsd slot, i still using one, in fact I’m writing from it right now
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-poco-x3-pro-256gb
Listed at $322 currently, meaning you bought it half price or less in ‘22. Good purchase!
Don’t forget 120Hz screen. The phone has a great value. I paid mine €290 two years ago and I am not replacing it any time soon.
Even more, kernel source code is available and xda-developers community on device is active, unofficial support gonna be really long term, since 2 years of usage i just swapped battery on mine once, it’s truly a long lived phone
Yeah, my (sigh) “Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G 2023” has 8GB. And the 3.5 jack. And an actual fingerprint sensor. And I spent $160, although I bought it used.
Why sigh tho) i always saying that obscure devices have the best peripheral support, no need to buy popular devices because they often skimp on peripherals and overpriced, be proud my man) you have good phone for good money after all
Sigh was because I was about to type out that stupid-ass name :)
I like the phone a lot.
That is the phone I was originally referring to, except mine in the 2022 version. And I understand the sigh. I do it every time someone asks me what kind of phone I have.
Who cares? Buy em or don’t.
Zero reason why any modern computer should be less then 16gb
PC (so, presumably meant for Windows) laptops with 4GB are still all over the place.
They’d probably work reasonably well under [not Windows]. How well they do with Windows is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Macbooks are meant to be for creative professionals and those of us deluding ourselves into thinking we might one day be one of those
8G RAM for that purpose is NOT enough in 2024. Shit, it barely was when I went through college in 2016 with a macbook (which is why our models had 16)
My 6 year old CHROMEBOOK has 16gb…
My 13 year old MB has 16GB.
It came with 8GB and at some point I spent $50 or so to add another 8GB.
You know, back when upgrading Macs was a thing.
Because Chrome takes up 75% of it.
Laugh. I made fun of Chrome.
