• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    There’s two sides to every tortilla and as a gun runner, I’m very upset my personal information might be involved in this hack. We need comprehensive privacy laws and real consequences for data breaches. Otherwise, these tech companies will treat this like a cost of doing business.

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    4 months ago

    I thought we were over the whole “USA bad m’kay” but then shit like that turns up. It’s not okay.

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    "Texan Craig Adlong. He pleaded guilty in 2020 for lying on firearm transaction forms, saying the guns were for his personal use. He purchased 95 semi-automatic rifles at Guns Unlimited in Katy, Texas, making seven visits over two months.

    Sixty-six of those firearms were recovered in Mexico, according to the leak."

    How many is too many “for personal use”?

    95 guns of the same type is CLEARLY not for personal use. 13 guns per visit x 7 visits? No questions?

    I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.

    But if you’re out buying 95 #0 Phillips screwdrivers, that’s not “for personal use”.

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      I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.

      As you need proper training on each individual gun i find it hard to believe that there is any person who reasonably needs more than 5 or 6 firearms and that includes sports, hunting and self defense

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        You don’t need proper training in every one, you need to be trained in pistols, rifles, and shotguns, and honestly you could probably just do long guns and hand guns, but I just feel like people should really be trained in all 3.

        There are just too many differences between hunting rifles and shotguns.

        I’m not even going to touch “self defense” rifles like an AR-15 because unless you live out in the sticks you will just be endangering your neighbors with how far they travel.

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          And each gun needs to be zeroed individually, needs to be maintained individually, behaves differently… Someone who has four hunting rifles will be a worse shot than someone who has one and uses it for everything. The notion of needing “specific tools” just stops making sense at that point.

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            4 months ago

            I mean… I had a raccoon problem, right? Mom, dad, three babies. Babies were cute, but were tearing up the place and screaming, OMG, like 1,000 cat fights every night.

            But the problem was dad was getting aggressive, hanging out on the roof, and showing ZERO fear of people.

            Now I COULD have picked up my grandfathers .30-06, but then the problem then would have been scraping raccoon parts off the roof and nobody has time for that.

            So I went the other direction. Took my dad’s 1000fps pellet rifle and shot him in the ass. Not only did he set off running, he took mom and babies with him.

            So, yeah, right tool for the job. ;)

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Actually studies show that a proper .223 or 5.56 JHP (or soft, varmint, or frangible) penetrates less through drywall than 00 buck.

          I mean, yeah, the steel core penetrators will zip right through, but that isn’t on the gun that’s on you not knowing what ammo to use.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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        4 months ago

        Well, rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols. The skill set downgrades pretty easy, upgrading not so much.

        After shooting my .45-70 Government, a .22 pea shooter is no big deal, going the OTHER way though…

          • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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            4 months ago

            Nah, never shot anything more threatening than an old school metal coffee can. Just being a gun owner doesn’t make you dangerous.

            I own several hammers too, doesn’t make me a carpenter. ;)

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              Oh I was just making a dumb joke about calling a 22 a pea. I’m a videographer and don’t own a camera, haha.

    • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Best use case I can tgink of for multiple copies of the same gun is torture tests? Or something similar where the gun is not expected to be functional afterwards. And even then >~5 is kind of excessive.

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        I could see that. Multiples of the same gun so you could, I dunno, test one in a salt water environment, freshwater rainforest, desert, arctic, and control.

        But 95? Yeah, no.

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    U.S. gun shops and smugglers tied to 78,000 firearms recovered south of the border

    Oh shit! Wild reveal coming up!

    The top 6 (see chart in the article) account for 1,102 total guns, 1.4%. 942 from Academy and Cabela’s, 1.2%.

    So, uh, what’s the story here? That a tiny fraction of guns recovered were from 2 of America’s top gun retail outlets?

    This is a non-story, nothing to see here except a couple of small timers profiteering.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      Drug Cartel violence can sometimes cross the line to terrorism, but usually isn’t classified that way. Terrorism is generally defined by targeted attacks against civilians in order to achieve political goals. Most drug cartel violence does not meet that definition.

      Drug cartel violence is basically just gang violence. Violence for the sake of maintaining power.

      I suppose “terrorism” is a more powerful word that evokes greater emotion from people, but we shouldn’t use it inappropriately or we risk separating the word from its own meaning.

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    “I respect that the U.S. government wants this shielded, but it’s frustrating that the information isn’t public,” said Celorio, who is leading his country’s lawsuit against American gun manufacturers and five Arizona gun shops. “I think the average American would be surprised that the fentanyl crisis is nurtured because of the number of firearms going to Mexico to empower the cartels.”

    Jfc. :(

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    This is exactly what I expected to read. Latin gangs keep unaligned affiliates (mostly girlfriends) as straw buyers to pass background checks. I don’t see how its the sellers folault, seems like we just cant keep our migrant and gamg problem under control.

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    4 months ago

    This illustrates perfectly the need to be able to sue gun manufacturers & retailers. Until they’re hit in the pocketbook, this shit’ll never stop.

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    You might be wondering why this information isn’t public already. Republicans passed a law to keep this information private. Yes, they’re protecting the identity of criminals selling guns to cartels.

    Fucking vote

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      Last time I made a comment about US guns being sold to cartels I got down voted hard. A bunch of people telling me they would never buy a semi automatic when they have machine guns.

      Some stuff just seems like it’s designed for cartels. Like their favorite handgun: El Presidente in 38 super

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
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      Republicans passed a law to keep this information private.

      They passed a law requiring the Mexican Government to keep it private? Fascinating…tell me more!

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      Yeah, its time for democrats to protect the identity of criminals selling guns to cartels.

      Fucking vote

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        You mean against the “take the guns first” and “blue lives matter” party, right? You’re against authoritarians being able to take guns and being able to freely murder citizens who did nothing other than possess a firearm, right?

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    From 2006-2011 agents in Arizona stood down as straw purchasers illegally bought 2,000 guns at shops, intending to use the information to track trafficking patterns and arrest the kingpins. However, agents didn’t deliver the high-level arrests – and in the process, they lost track of hundreds of guns.

    This is the shit I think of when I’m paying my taxes.

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
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      This shit is why 2A Advocates were so pissed off about Operation Fast & Furious and wouldn’t shut up about it for years. The BATFE forced the gun shops involved to sell the weapons even when they didn’t want to!

      Seriously, the whole thing was a shitshow from start to finish and when the manure caught fire everyone involved from the Field Agents through AG Eric Holder lied their assess off about it.