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    I like Joe. He did infrastructure and the chips act. He’s a meat and potatoes guy. But his best attribute will always be not being Donald Trump.

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        Fun fact: 10% of Americans will vote for a guy that had his brain eaten by a worm. Just look at five thirty eight

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          Everyone that made 538 worth reading was laid off. Even Nate Silver is gone, and he took his model with him. We’ll see how they do this election, but I’m not paying attention to them this election.

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              They weren’t incorrect, they predicted Trump had a chance to win and he made that chance happen

              What they did that was stupid was oversell what an odds advantage meant for Clinton and when caught in their own mistelling of how their own reports work proceeded to make themselves look like that nerd who can’t admit that he fucked up and blames it all on other people not understanding what he was “akshualay” saying.

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          Well there is the convicted felon, rapist and wannabe dictatorial psychopath, there is the guy with the dead brainworms in his head, and there is the guy who you can vote for if you would like things to continue as they are.

          Oh, you can also choose between reluctant and enthusiastic support of genocide, and breaking up strikes versus shooting at protestors. Clearly the US is the citadel of democracy.

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        Absolutely, but at a certain point people have got to accept that if the best strategic choice they have is still complicit with genocide, then they need to make that strategic choice (libs: I am saying vote for Biden, get the fuck off my back about it) and then work to build an alternative.

        If they aren’t working against the system, and they get pissy every time someone mentions the genocide because it might hurt their better strategic choice, then they are doing genocide denial. Maybe they’re not saying the genocide isn’t happening, they’re just saying people shouldn’t keep bringing it up when it’s inconvenient for them. Denying that people should talk about genocide is a kind of genocide denial. If the better option can’t survive without genocide denial then maybe the problem isn’t the people talking about genocide but the better strategic option being complicit in genocide.

        Maybe the problem is a political system that keeps putting genociders in power.

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    I think what’s wild is that particular group’s incredible thought process of “oh yeah, the current guy is just doing a hit job on this other guy because he’s running for President. He’s sending all these various agencies after him. blah blah blah…”

    And I’m just like. Or you know, simple answer is that guy is doing crime stuff and ought not to be doing crime stuff. To really over simplify the most recent crime stuff. The crime was he wrote the wrong thing on the sheet of paper. You look at the paper, it says it’s for lawyer stuff. You look at the receipts shows the money went to hide sex stuff. Lawyer stuff ≠ hide sex stuff. Ta-da!

    And a bit more detail. The whole argument that hiding sex stuff wasn’t political money. Literally a letter between crime guy and other person handling political stuff was, we need to hide this sex stuff otherwise that could hurt us in election stuff. Like I get it that there’s some folks wanting to believe that President guy is just mad at crime guy and wants to whatever him so that President guy can stay in office. But crime guy literally admitted crime stuff in letters he thought no one else would ever read. Crime guy is not a very smart crime guy.

    I don’t like current guy, don’t get me wrong. But crime guy is an idiot. I just don’t want an idiot back as President. There’s just way too many people hitched to an idiot here and willing to go down with the ship. Crime guy is an idiot and he’s getting smacked with a lot of the crime shit he’s done because he’s an idiot. There’s not any other way to slice this. Crime guy is just not good at anything and is coasting on mom and dad money still. If anything, that Crime guy is still floating on some money is a testament to Crime guy’s book keeper.

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    I’d vote for a convicted felon. Fuck, I almost was one.

    Now, a pedophilic misogynistic cheeto? Nah, I’ll take the sleepy dude.

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      This is why memes such as this are shitty. It throws convicted felons into the pile of just “bad people” and doesn’t think anything of it.

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        Agreed. Nuance and meme rarely play well together though, so my expectations don’t have me up in arms over it.

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      Our choices are three old dudes. Two are senile and one is brain damaged.

      The bar’s low but so are the standards this time around.

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          Yep. There was no need add that qualification because a conviction should drive voters away, but here we are.

          This whole thing says more about the quality of candidates than the system, though. The fact that I can say “he’s demented” and you don’t know who I’m referring to shows that the political establishment has its collective head up its ass.

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            This whole thing says more about the quality of candidates than the system, though. The fact that I can say “he’s demented” and you don’t know who I’m referring to shows that the political establishment has its collective head up its ass.

            Yeah. Like they should be enjoying retirement at this age, not running a bloody country.

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            The reason the quality of the candidates is so low is because there’s only two parties that get almost all the votes. The reason that is the way it is, is because of the stupid vote system the US uses. I saw a video once, where someone calculated what the results of the last vote in Germany would have been if we used that system too and it’s really all you need to understand what the issue is. Using the US’ system, one party got most of the votes by far (like 80% or something), while with the system that we use (which is simply, the party gets as many votes as there were people who voted for that party), they had like 25-30% of votes. I’m not sure those numbers are 100% correct, I could search for that video and the results of the last election again if you want me to.

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    Please explain to a non American, why a convicted felon not in federal prison but instead running for president?

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      He hasn’t been sentenced yet and won’t be for months. Its possible that he won’t be sentenced until after the election. He’s also been indicted for paying the porn star, Stormy Daniels, hush money.

      So, out-of-context, its just another rich dude doing money crime in the US. Its not like he’s been convicted of being a russian asset or doing war crimes. Convention is to give him a slap on the wrist. But external political pressures and him being a unique dumbass to the judge will probably result in a tougher sentencing. But I doubt there will be any prison time, even white collar.

      Also you cans still run for president from prison. Eugene V. Debs ran as the Socialist Party candidate while jailed for sedition during WWI.

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    On one side I have an old catholic bum who overall doesn’t do much on the other I have a convicted felon who wishes to remove my human rights and wants to turn the country into a dictatorship.

    As a centrist, I’m undecided…

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      Also from my interactions on here:

      On one side I have an old catholic bum who is committing genocide (by allowing companies to sell to a man who is committing genocide), and in the other side I have a convicted felon who would absolutely continue the genocide while removing my human rights and wants to turn the country into a dictatorship.

      As a leftist, these two are exactly the same and I’m not voting.

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    Very low bar to clear. Wish we had higher standards for presidential candidates.

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      Mod here. I currently couldn’t give less of a shit.

      …But I’m willing to change my mind.

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        Idk I just find it tiring when I go to meme subs to have fun and relax and instead I get reminded of how downhill stuff is going. Plus sometimes people have arguments in the comments which isn’t a very lightheaded or shitposty thing

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          Aside from politics, most things suck. Comedy helps most of us get through it. If you can’t find a reason to laugh at <absurd/sad thing>, all you have is <absurd/sad thing>.

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          Eh, I feel you. But on the other hand, I know I’m not the only one in this community, so everything doesn’t have to be to my liking. Frankly, a lot of y’all post some really stupid shit here. But as long as people stay civil and follow the bare minimum rules we have, I’ll leave it alone. I’m not a Nazi Reddit mod. This is a shitpost community. Let’s post some shit.

          … But like I said. There’s a limit, and rules can always change if things get out of hand. If you see anything, feel free to report it. We check the feed pretty often.

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    So the campaign hasn’t changed.

    “Don’t question my genocide or I’ll have cops beat you up and arrest you while demanding order. And I’m not Trump. Biden2024.”

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      Are you too young or too stupid to remember how Trump employed law enforcement during the BLM protests?

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        Are you to senile or stupid to know that Trump has nothing to do with Biden’s platform?

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          I disagree. Unfortunately, “not Trump” is the best platform for him, especially right now. Recently, he and Harris did their “are you with us” fundraising and my thought was “no, but I’m against Trump.”

          I hate genocide and what Israel is doing to Palestine, but Biden is, unfortunately, the best option put on the table. Two shit options in terms of the Middle East, sure, but one is still shittier.

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              Won’t trump also continue the genocide? So aren’t the options Genocide A, or Genocide B? But Genocide A is also a convicted felon… So. Yeah, easy choice.

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                Good thing our country is a Democracy and there are a multitude of other options. Not just Fascist Dictator A or Fascist Dictator B.

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                  Is it though? I’d love to know who the other options are in a First Past the Post democracy.

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              If you hate genocide so much, why are you Hell-bent on ensuring it by helping “finish the job” Trump get elected?

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                I am not hell-bent on helping Trump get elected.

                I’m hell-bent on not helping a genocidal fascist dictator get elected.

                People like you are at fault for Biden being on the ticket and not someone who deserves a vote.

                Why are you hell-bent on maintaining the status quo and keeping this genocide and the gradual decline of America into abject fascism going?

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                  Bullshit. You’re a concern-trolling Trump supporter in effect, whether you realize it or not. That’s factual reality; you don’t get to dispute it.

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              It’s certainly a disheartening state of affairs but the choice is between stopping one genocide now* and foregoing so much as the possibility of stopping any American-supported genocides in the future.

              *now, will the extra moral credit of not voting for Biden actually stop Netanyahu’s genocide?

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                Cant reset the entire system right this very moment, so better just push it further down the path like a good little fascist instead of doing something that could start the change that is needed. /s

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      No its “use your own damn money to silence the pornstar you banged you cheap fuck”