• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    But for that brief moment, we all got to laugh at it because it said to put glue on pizza.

    All worth it!

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    The problem isn’t the rise of “AI” but more so how we’re using it.

    If a company wants to create a machine learning model that analyzes metrics on an automated production line and spits out parameters to improve the efficiency of their equipment, that’s a great use of the technology. We don’t need a LLM to produce a useless summary of what it thinks is a question when all I want is a page of search results.

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      Thats fucking bullshit, the people developing it and shipping it as a product have been very clear and upfront about their uses and none of it is ethical.

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    There’s literally no point.

    Like, humans aren’t really the “smartest” animals. We’re just the best at language and tool use. Other animals routinely demolish us in everythig else measured on an IQ test.

    Pigeons get a bad rap at being stupid, but their brains are just different than ours. Their image and pattern recognition is so insane, they can recognize words they’ve never seen aren’t gibberish just by letter structure.

    We weren’t even trying to get them to do it. They were just introducing new words and expected the pigeons to have to learn, but they could already tell despite never seeing that word before.

    Why the hell are we jumping straight to human consciousness as a goal when we don’t even know what human consciousness is? It’s like picking up Elden Ring on whatever the final boss is for your very first time playing the game. Maybe you’ll eventually beat it. But why wouldn’t you just start from the beginning and work your way up as the game gets harder?

    We should at least start with pigeons and get an artificial pigeon and work our way up.

    Like, that old reddit repost about pigeon guided bombs, that wasn’t a hail Mary, it was incredibly effective.

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      Who’s jumping to human consciousness as a goal? LLMs aren’t human consciousness. The original post is demagoguery, but it’s not misrepresenting the mechanics. Chatbots already have more to do with your pigeons than with human consciousness.

      I hate that the stupidity about AGI some of these techbros are spouting is being taken at face value by critics of the tech.

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      Pigeons get a bad rap at being stupid

      Do they? I guess I haven’t encountered that much. I think about messenger pigeons in wars and such…

      Disgusting? Sure, I’ve heard that a lot. But I haven’t heard ‘stupid’ really as a word to describe pigeons.

      Anyway, I don’t disagree with you otherwise. My dogs are super stupid in my perception but I know which one of us would be better at following a trail after someone had left the scene. (Okay, maybe Charlie would still be too stupid to do that one, but Ghost could do it).

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      You might like the scifi youtuber Isaac Arthur. He has a huge library, but a number of episodes that talk about intelligence.

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    On the grand scheme of things, I suspect we actually don’t have that much power in stopping the industrial machine.

    Even if every person on here, on Reddit, and every left-leaning social media revolted against the powers that be right now, we wouldn’t resolve anything. Not really. They’d send the military out, shoot us down (possibly quite literally), then go back to business as usual.

    Unless there becomes a business incentive to change our ways, then capitalism will not follow, and instead it’ll do everything it can to resist that change. By the time there is enough economic inventive, it’ll be far too late to be worth fixing.

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      I mean, this isn’t just a social media thing. It was part of the reason there was a writer’s strike in Hollywood and they did manage to accomplish something. I don’t see why protests/strikes/politics would be useless here.

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        You’re right, but I was making a point, as social media is most often where you hear people calling for revolution.

        I’ll agree that strikes can work, especially employment strikes - but that’s usually because there’s a specific, private entity to target, an employer to back into the metaphorical corner.

        As far as protesting/striking against the system, you need only look at the strikes and protests relating Palestine to know what kind of force such a revolutionary strike would be met with.

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      A lot of people on Lemmy are expecting the glorious revolution to happen any time now and then we will live in whatever utopia they believe makes a utopia. Even if something like that happens, and I’m less certain by the day that it ever will, the result isn’t necessarily any better than what came before. And often worse.

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        It’ll almost certainly be worse. When revolutions happen, the people who seize power are the ones who were most prepared, organized and willing to exercise violence. Does that at all sound like leftists in the West?

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          The only way to enact utopia is by making it so popular an idea that the propaganda machine gets drowned out. This is going to be a very long and slow process that may never end. But we can always aim for “not worse” and if we can do that, we can also aim for “a little better”. Anything faster than those baby steps feels really far from possible, but those baby steps are always worth taking.

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            Wake me up when people found a solarpunk city-state with nuclear capability so that they don’t just get rolled over by the nearest superpower.

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    I mean, it also made the first image of a black hole, so there’s that part.

    I’d also flag that you shouldn’t use one of these to do basic sums, but in fairness the corporate shills are so desperate to find a sellable application that they’ve been pushing that sort of use super hard, so on that one I blame them.

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        Machine learning tech is used in all sorts of data analysis and image refining.

        https://physics.aps.org/articles/v16/63

        I get that all this stuff is being sold as a Google search replacement, but a) it is not, and b) it is actually useful, when used correctly.

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          This is why the term “AI” sucks so much. Even “machine learning” is kind of misleading.

          Large-scale statistical computing obviously has uses, especially for subjects that lend themselves well to statistical analysis of large and varied data sets, like astronomical observations.

          Sticking all of the text on the internet into a blender and expecting the resulting statistical weights to produce some kind of oracle is… Well, exactly what you’d expect the tech cultists to pivot to after crypto fell apart, tbh, but still incredibly dumb.

          Calling them both “AI” does a tremendous disservice to us all. But here we are, unable to escape the marketing.

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            Yeah, it’s no oracle. But it IS fascinating how well it does language, and how close it sticks to plausible answers. It has uses, like narrowing down fuzzy queries, translation and other looser things that traditional algorithms struggle with.

            It’s definitely not a search engine or a calculator, though.

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    This is a strawman argument. AI is a tool. Like any tool, it’s used for negative things and positive things. Focusing on just the negative is disingenuous at best. And focusing on AI’s climate impact while completely ignoring the big picture is asinine (the oil industry knew they were the primary cause of climate change more than 60 years ago).

    AI has many positive use-cases yet they are completely ignored by people who lack logic and rationality.

    AI is helping physicists speed up experiments into supernovae to better understand the universe.

    AI is helping doctors to expedite cancer screening rates.

    AI is powering robots that can do the dishes.

    AI is also helping to catch illegal fishing, tackle human trafficking, and track diseases.

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    No. Once it has identified it as a math problem a different part of the code is called.

    Fucking morons with Twatter accounts