Reddit says Microsoft’s Bing, Anthropic, and Perplexity have scraped its data without permission. “It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.”
“It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.” makes me regret ever using Reddit in my life. Get your profit whatever, but this is just beyond greed.
I deleted my account but that was before I learnt you could replace all your posts with random sentences.
You don’t want random because that’s easy to detect. You want to fuck up the ML so you need to be more subtle like scrambling a few words or replacing certain nouns or logical connections in ways that are hard to differentiate from regular edits.
Maybe check, b/c there’s a chance that they may have undeleted it all now by now, so there’s a possibility that you could still do it?
This is for you, Reddit: 🎻
“People who fecklessly farm other people’s data upset at other companies are farming their data.”
If this gains any traction, I hope every news site, blog, etc sues Reddit for profiting off their material that fills the entire site. The comment section wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t something to comment on in the first place. Digg and Reddit didn’t even have comments at first. It was ALL content from other sources. Even “reddit original content” is" original content from a creator posted to Reddit". Reddits “value” is ephemeral.
Look at all the work we done… some 200million per year dude is selling it now…
aint this grand?!
“Let’s see … how do we get more people to visit our site? I know! We’ll prevent search engines from sending people to it!”
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Reddit CEO can shove reddit up his ass sideways. The whole thing.
He can put his dick in /dontputyourdickinthat
Aside: I give Lemmy serious props for not reproducing some of these communities btw.
This is like asking a website to respect robots.txt.
They literally are, and attempting to block those that don’t.
To commemorate Steve “Greedy Pigboy” Huffman’s assertiveness, I’ve made some memes. Enjoy.
Ok, now I’m miffed that Google caved to Reddit’s demands and paid up.
Because this set a dangerous precedent.
Earlier, Google got a lot of demands from various publications to pay up for indexing the publicly available news sites. And they always responded with “Ok, guess you leave us no other choice than just exclude you from indexing altogether.” Let the site simmer for a while until they went “oh shit, not being indexed by major search engines sucks. we didn’t really mean it please come back”
It’s especially jarring because Reddit doesn’t even produce their own news content anyway. That search engine money isn’t going to the content creators. News sites at least could say they need to pay for their content to be written by their employees.
At this point I think Google needs Reddit more than Reddit needs Google. Google search kind of sucks these days. How often do you add site:reddit.com to the end of the query to get any sort of useful result for a specific question? For me it’s pretty often. If Reddit cuts off Google, that goes away and Google search suffers significantly. And that might mean the one thing Google cannot abide- a situation where people in large numbers start actively seeking out other search engines.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re both being super shitty.
Google needs to quit obsessing over AI and a million different cloud products and fix the one product that people actually care about. Reddit needs to stop acting like they own everybody.Other search engines should continue indexing Reddit and take them to court if they issue a cease and desist imo.
Steve “Spaz” Huffman has been trying to milk money out of the site that Alexis Ohanian, Aaron Swartz, and pigboy Steven Spaz kinda created collaborating with each other. Aaron was shoved out first by The Spaz, though one could claim rightfully so in that case since Aaron was basically done with the site, and had moved on to his next project, essentially leaving Alexis and Spaz in the lurch as neither of them understood the code that Aaron had written to make the site functional.
In many ways, the users made this possible. Most of us aren’t users in this case. The users that make up the vast majority of the population don’t give one thought to their own personal privacy, after all they have “nothing to hide,” not knowing that they really need to hide almost all of their data.
If the users were to be educated about how much money the various companies like Reddit, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, and almost every single other “disruptive tech company,” has stolen from them, the socialist revolution would have started in the 1980s
I am guessing Google paid for access to their internal archives on posts and comments. Will give them a unique dataset for all the stuff that was deleted during the many exodus runs over the years.
I don’t see why you should be miffed at all, Google can bully publications and unindex them and it will work. Reddit according to this: https://www.semrush.com/blog/most-visited-websites/ is the third most visited website after google and youtube, so they have a bit more power, lots of people google with “site:reddit.com” because it still has some useful content like that and I am going go out on a limb and say that US visitors are the most important for selling ads for Google.
Microsoft will have to make it’s own value calculation whether it’s worth it and they will likely payup, although more and more of reddit is just bots posting stupid shit.
That’s kind of how search engines work, buddy.
And Lost_My_Mind says to reddit…oh, it’s just a middle finger.
What’s “reddit”?
I think it is when you use the toilet - it is what you flush away.
It’s not your data.
Fuck off.
Part of the ToS. Whatever you put on there is effectively theirs. Same with Facebook and your photos etc.
And whatever you put on a public accessible webpage is effectively anyone’s who makes a get request.
No you cannot transfer copyright with ToS agreements just give license for reddit to use your copyright.
ToS don’t prevent you from being a PoS
My only regret was not deleting all my comments before deleting my reddit account :P
I did delete it all and I’m very happy about it.
I deleted my top comments and left the trash, which was 15 years worth. AI can hallucinate off that trash all it wants.
Same. 13+ years of insanity and grouchy comments are gonna mess up the AIs
Same, plus or minus a year.
It took me a week, but I scrambled every comment and post with lorem ipsum and bee movie scripts, deleted the comments, then after verifying I could no longer find any of my original content on any search engine outside archive sites, I deleted the account.
It took so long because r*ddit started limiting API access when they realized people were automating their profile scrubbing.
As I’ve said before about certain countries, if you’re doing everything you can to prevent people from leaving [THING/PLACE] then you might just be shit.
I was straight IP banned permanently for reporting the Israeli genocide fans and racists arguing for the eradication of Palestinians. I just deleted the account because I never imagined they would turn into such shitheels.
I got IP banned for asking if there was any “good news” about Mitch McConnell after his strokes. I intentionally worded it ambiguously, but the mod on r/politics looked at my political history/not a conservative and decided I was celebrating violence and so I was IP banned. I guess only Mitch McConnell is allowed to salivate at violence openly and the rest of us are supposed to be worried for his health. It’s not a problem if women are the ones he’s directing violence towards, but God forbid a woman speak back to him. Pregnancy and birth cause strokes and clots, and that’s preferable to him vs an abortion… but God forbid he get strokes at the end of his life from being a horrible person and I find that preferable to his stupid harmful policies
The way they enforce that no violence rule is so fucking stupid. Even if you had said “I hope that stroke implodes his brain” you aren’t advocating violence. A medical issue isn’t violence.
And here I got IP banned for saying we should murk the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. This was around the time the journalist got butchered in that Saudi Embassy. As an aside the Saudis have oil and are assholes how long till we start drone striking them?
silver lining 😁
Don’t regret too much. I wouldn’t be surprised if reddit’s “delete” function was really just "move to the “suckers-wanted-to-delete-this” file.
I “deleted” all my posts, then randomly had someone reply to a 3 year old post that wasn’t showing up in my profile but still showed on the page.
Don’t delete your comments, edit them to be useless.
I’m pretty sure they keep edit history too.
Probably, but when someone is going through old posts they are going to see the edit, not the history. The main goal here is to make Reddit less useful so people go elsewhere. Let Google’s AI be trained on Bot posts.
If you delete your content do it in the form form of a GDPR takedown request
Good idea for those who are covered by the GDPR. Doesn’t help me, though.
On one hand, that’s a shitty, greedy move from Reddit. All of the data, and value is provided by the users.
On the other hand, Microsoft does want to feed it into OpenAI and present it on a Bing search engine result page rather than sending the visitor to Reddit where they might join a community (or view an ad or ten).
