• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Maybe it’s time to return the favor.

    I wonder if Russians are aware of the ways Putin enriches himself off of Russian poverty and suffering. Let’s make sure they know how to solve that problem.

    • antmzo220@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      13 days ago

      Maybe it’s time to return the favor.

      “Maybe it’s time”…as if we aren’t already? Lol

      What do you think the entire purpose of the CIA is? And radio free Europe?

    • InvertedParallax@lemm.eeEnglish
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      13 days ago

      They aren’t but they don’t care.

      You can’t comprehend how psychologically broken Russians are, they’ve had centuries of lies with 0 truth, they just learned to accept whatever, because they know the alternative could always be a gunshot (or open window nowadays).

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      Fox News IS the conservative plutocracy’s STATE propaganda network. The only difference is they created the state media before they seized control of the state.

  • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
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    14 days ago

    And before people say “not Lemmy, we are too small” - It’s pretty obvious that a major Lemmy instance is literally a training ground for these recruits before they get promoted to Facebook and reddit duty (either intentionally or otherwise). There have been a few narratives this election which seem to have been tested out on here weeks before getting to Facebook and reddit. “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy.

    • pop@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      14 days ago

      I mean the US gets to shape the narrative everywhere else by making the social companies to do so, but the people removed about how they’re being manipulated in return is always going to be hilarious.

      Lemmy is being overrun by brainwashed wankies more than anything.

      There have been a few narratives this election which seem to have been tested out on here weeks before getting to Facebook and reddit. “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy

      can you post some links?

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        14 days ago

        Lemmy is being overrun by brainwashed wankies more than anything.

        It’s all the same people who comment on YouTube and post ForwardsFromGrandma on Facebook. Its not like there’s some secret reserve of “normal” people that are being diluted. Americans are going to American, whether they’re cheer leading our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, freaking out over a gay couple trying to buy a wedding cake, or marching around Charlottesville with torches.

        These assholes are everywhere. And when you call them on their bullshit, their knee-jerk response is “You’re anti-American! No aktuly you’re the extremist! You’re either with us or you’re with the Terrorists! You’re not even a real person, you must be an elaborate engineered computer program / insincere paid special agent specifically tasked with tricking me into questioning my preconceptions!”

        Implying that folks are “brainwashed” assumes they had some better prior understanding of the world that was subsequently overwritten by a nefarious evil agent. But this baseline ultra-nationalism is the original conception we’re raised with. American Exceptionalism is the norm and believing in it is for normies.

        They’re not the freaks and weirdos and wankies for adhering to this very cloistered understanding of the world. We’re the freaks for questioning it, for interrogating it, and god-fucking-help-us-all rejecting it.

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      14 days ago

      Yep, i’ve noticed their rhetoric has gotten bad on the Memes sub. I just unsubbed there actually. 196 is more fun anyways.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      It’s pretty obvious that a major Lemmy instance is literally a training ground for these recruits

      Is there any evidence to substantiate this claim, or are we doing the “Everyone on the instance I don’t like is a Russian bot, because they disagree with me” line of reasoning?

      “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy.

      Wasn’t this in response to the dead-end Biden guys who were growing increasingly hysterical as he tanked out in the polls? Lemmy’s gotten significantly more normal since Harris took the top of the ticket and the numbers have rebounded.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Is there any evidence to substantiate this claim, or are we doing the “Everyone on the instance I don’t like is a Russian bot, because they disagree with me” line of reasoning?

        It’s option B in all cases.

      • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
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        14 days ago

        Nah, more like “Russian bots exist and some people I disagree with are Russian bots.” Which is pretty much the entire premise of the article.

        It’s also pretty easy to tell the difference IMO. The trolls tend to just do nothing but troll and flame. They don’t really spend much time engaging on other topics.

        As far as why I think Lemmy is a training ground? Call it a hunch. Obviously I don’t have a notarized letter from a troll farm saying that they are in control of a certain worldnews forum, but a lot of the usual suspects fit a bit too neatly into that box to not raise an eyebrow. There are some other patterns as well but its definitely all circumstantial.

    • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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      14 days ago

      this is a bit scary as the fediverse is likely a bit more difficult than facebook and such. I hate to think we are training them to well.

  • YeetPics@mander.xyzEnglish
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    13 days ago

    This document has shaped every little chat I’ve had with every little tankie.

    Neato!

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    14 days ago

    Lol. My TV is overrun with zionist propaganda. Politicians are completely bought and sold by the zionist cult. Our “public” radio and television completely supports an ongoing genocide.

    And they’re going to tell me that some “guerrilla media campaign” is the problem?!? I haven’t seen it at all. The phone call is coming from inside the house, y’all.

    • x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      14 days ago

      This campaign also targets the politicians and media.

      They are normal people too.

      People are manipulated into being hypercritical which is close to the root of the reason why we become divided.

    • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
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      14 days ago

      It fascinates me how hard it is to make sure people understand that

      1. Two things can be bad at once
      2. You can comment on an issue without whataboutism

      Real people are being hurt, real elections are being won with these operations. Read the full memo, it’s in the crosspost.

      • kingthrillgore@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        14 days ago

        You can comment on an issue without whataboutism

        This point specifically is getting ignored. I feel like this kind of blatant ignorance is starting to make Lemmy a lost cause, because its gotten worse the past few weeks. I’m starting to think Tildes may be more my speed.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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      14 days ago

      Yeah but pro Israel shills are approved by the government and elites… Russians are doing this without permission… that’s the issue here

  • Telorand@reddthat.comEnglish
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    14 days ago

    In order for this work to be effective, you need to use a minimum of fake news and a maximum of realistic information. At the same time, you should continuously repeat that this is what is really happening, but the official media will never tell you about it or show it to you.

    Yep, that last sentence pretty much sums up right-wing media, especially since “Candidate A” who is definitely not Trump, shhh ran for office around 2016.

  • kandoh@reddthat.comEnglish
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    14 days ago

    ‘In the fox news style’

    Hmmm 🤔

    Also interesting how much they count on white grievances and making white people feel attacked. It’s almost like these things make you easier to manipulate.