WTF is wrong with people.
men*
No.
The vast majority of the time a woman is murdered, it’s at the hands of a man. Yes.
Hundreds of thousands of women are killed each year, poisoned by their doctors. this article is old but nothing has changed. is this misogyny? i thought most doctors these days are women. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/
SWING and a MISS
Yeah, it’s because he was a man and not a horrible human. Gotcha.
Why respond in bad faith like this? You’re clearly playing dumb.
Pot, kettle…
Oh boohoo did those mean men downvote you? Just another reason to mandate isolation of genders.
Would you please provide data supporting this stance?
Already did in another comment in this thread, take a look. Cited with the link to the paper.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1635092/ <— by all means, look up similar studies done in more recent years and you’ll find the same fundamental patterns.
Most of the replies you’ve received are trying to explain that saying “men” are what is wrong with “people” is a generalisation that is unhelpful and harms all men.
It’s true that the perp is a man, and it’s also true that most violence against women is perpetrated by men. However, that doesn’t mean there’s a causal link between being a man and assaulting women.
It’s much more likely that the addressable causes underlying this “man’s” actions are poverty, lack of mental health support, and cultural norms including but not limited to religion.
When you suggest that “men” are the cause of what happened to this athlete, it’s not surprising that men will be offended. To thereafter frame the obvious response as sexist is projection, frankly.
Nicely put.
Men literally prey after women. When its done right its called, what, lust? Love?
A lot of men are drawn to women as their natural state.
Its not a crazy thing to say that women should be cautious around men in general is it?
Disingenuous at best.
People need to be cautious around people.
The vast majority of men do not “prey” on anything, including women.
I’m sorry I just don’t feel very unsafe around women. Why should I? The cast majority of violence is committed by men against other men.
I’m a man, and I’m wary of other men, who often attack men over women, or their ego, or their fragile state of mind has been disrupted momentarily or whatever other trivial reason men feel justified attacking people.
Driving in my car = men are more likely to participate in road rage At work = men are more likely to commit violence at work than women At home = men are most likely to break and enter occupied homes In public = men are most likely to be the perpetrator of a public mass shooting public shooting.
I’m a man and I agree with women. Men often react violently when angry, and women simply do not. Whether thats a power thing, and if women were bigger it would flip, but the point is, if you are generally worried about your safety, then you don’t need to worry about women very much at all, and you need to worry about men very much so.
Remember these are generalizations, anyone is capable of anything and women have killed men before and women have committed violence before.
Everything you’ve listed is an absurd over statement.
often attack men over women, or their ego, or their fragile state of mind has been disrupted momentarily or whatever other trivial reason men feel justified attacking people.
This is simply not the reality I live in. I’ve never known someone to attack someone over a woman, nor their fragile state of mind?
Driving in my car = men are more likely to participate in road rage At work = men are more likely to commit violence at work than women At home = men are most likely to break and enter occupied homes In public = men are most likely to be the perpetrator of a public mass shooting public shooting.
I’ve certainly never experienced any of this and while mass shootings and robberies do occur they’re so rare that being a victim of such a crime is not a tangible risk.
Honestly you’re more likely tripping over your shoelace and dying than any of these things actually happening.
You are arguing crime isnt common, I’m arguing that WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN its done by men.
Since this is a conversation about who commits violence most often, it doesnt make sense to appeal to the fact that most people rarely encounter violence.
For the record, I agree, people shouldn’t be worried in general about this stuff. For those that are in situations where they are at risk, they should be careful around men, period.
Are you arguing its stupid for a women to take preventative measures or protect themselves in all cases?
Peace. Don’t associate with men. We will all be happier the fewer people you associate with.
Since i was a boy, i enjoyed the public library but i never understood why they always had loads of “romance novels” in a special section that only women frequented. when i was older it occurred to me to take a closer look and i was appalled. all women are disgusting. /s
Really having a hard time addressing the topic at hand, aren’t you?
Check my other comment.
North west, bordering uganda. hmmm. i wonder if there is an islamic component to this?
Listen buddy.
First of all, men are brutalizing women all over the world, every day, regardless of religion.
You should think about religion as less of a driver and more of a record. Like a dictionary.
People will do whatever they want to do, and then they will justify it. If there happens to be a few convenient passages in a religious text justifying setting your spouse on fire, they’ll repeat that until they’re blue in the face while dousing a woman in gasoline.
And sure, you can say that they use that text to tech their kids, but they’re still just teaching the bits they want to.
The point is, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, doesn’t matter. All major sacred books have bits about brutalizing women that step out of line, and the people that really like those bits tend to climg to them to justify being horrible fucking people.
No, you don’t get to do the misandry on me. i have zero tolerance for that battle of the sexes nonsense. i give you one hour to say sorry and pronise yo never pull this horseshit again. otherwise the reporting and investigation into your comment history will begin. the clock is ticking.
Why just the other day in springfield a woman was covered in pitch and lit on fire down the road from me. /BIG SARCASM
I don’t believe the brainworm excuse given by that user but I don’t think it’s a stretch to see how locality influences these problems.
No, the woman in Springfield was just beaten to a pulp. You just don’t know it because it doesn’t make the news as long as she’s not been set on fire.
cope
You don’t believe in helminths? thousands are afflicted. maybe you think schistosoma are imaginary too. so, when youre pissing blood in excruciating pain, you will go to the witch doctor for a dose of belief based medicine, yes?
Even a severely brain damaged individual doesn’t start immolating their wives, and I see no particularly high correlation between Africa and rate of Neurological disorders in the first place.
See this Global Study LINK with a figure attached below:
It sounds like you just want an excuse to call Africans your intellectual inferiors.
People that grew up with chronic helminth infestation have serious mental impairment. why are you being facetious?
This happens thousands of times a day in the developed west
Yes, sadly islam does happen thousands of times a day in the west. Not so sure about the chronic helminth infestation tho
Her ex is a christian(though it doesn’t matter what he is because it’s irrelevant to the murder). Are you gonna still blame “islam” for all your problems? Are they also causing your adhd and dysfunction?
Wow. I hate humans: we were a mistake
*are
Hey that’s Fred Rogers you’re talking about here!
He wasnt human. He was a spirit of light.
End femicide!
“The authorities in north-west Kenya, where Cheptegei lived and trained, said she was targeted after returning home from church with her two daughters.”
it then has something about land and quarelling but its hard to get what happened.
“A report filed by a local administrator alleged the athlete and her ex-partner had been wrangling over a piece of land. Police say an investigation is under way. Cheptegei, from a region just across the border in Uganda, is said to have bought a plot in Trans Nzoia county and built a house to be near Kenya’s elite athletics training centres.”
it talks of her generosity and position as a bread winner. I wonder if he wanted her to buy it at some inflated price or some crap. I guess ultimately it does not matter what the stupidity was but for some reason im always trying to figure out the thinking from the nutter in the story. Luckily it does not mention injuries to the daughter although apparently he got himself somewhat but not enough to die.
I hope he survives and spends the rest of his life in extreme pain.
Just terrible.
If there were some kind of global women’s vigilante network to handle these things, I would definitely not snitch.
That’s awful
Oh no. This beautiful light extinguished from our eyes
Whoa… Bad choice of words…
Or great, depends on what you were going for…
Agreed. Star would have implied because of her athletic skill, I meant because of her spirit.
😫
Okay JFC who sets someone on fire over a land dispute!? I mean I’d be all for lighting, say, Kim Jong Un on fire, but that guy’s a mad murdering sociopath. I dunno what penalties there are for egregiously horrible murder, but that guy deserves it.
Are there special punishments or charges for deluxe murder? Like murder with extra suffering? IDK humanity is pretty fucked up.
When my family murdered folks over land disputes the other folks did it first, we also used guns and a ditch. Seriously burning someone alive is something ya leave to trench fighters.
What are you, a Hatfield?
Nah, just a member of an American-Scots family who historically pissed off a lot of people. From Yankees to dixies, and Mormons to Adventists we’ve pissed on them all.
Women would be so much better off with out us.
“us” speak for yourself buddy but I have never lit a woman on fire and never will. We all would be better off without violent assholes regardless of their gender.
How about we instead keep on teaching men healthy masculinity and create the foundations for a better society rather than keep “banning” everything bad.
An all women/men world would still have evil perpetrators.
Even when we are good we still terrify women by existing. There is no hope. I would like to see an example of positive masculinity that was not just a response to toxic masculinity.
And no one can give me such an example. Plenty of downvotes though.
News only reports like this and it skews peoples perceptions. For example, I’m a guy. This last weekend I took my friend and all her kids (all girls) out for amusement park, festival, swimming, gifts, and any food they wanted out weekend before school starts. I paid for everything. You won’t find it in the news, Why’d I do it, because they moved to a new city far away from their friends so I wanted to start all the girls on a very happy note for school starting.
No one owes you examples. Men are not inherently evil and women are not inherently good. People, all people, have the capacity for both good and evil.
I terrify my wife. When she comes home I hide next to the fridge and I say “BOO!” and I get her just about every time. Then I hug my kids and finish making dinner.
Your pity party here is a self-fulfilling prophecy and screams white knight and all that. You can do better, get out of your head.
Yeah, the bear argument applies here. The bear would just kill you. Man would make you suffer.
Some, not all, hopefully not most.
But Jesus, so many of us suck so hard.
Part of me thinks that rising suicide rate is good
Great, start with yourself
