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    The US is at least 40 years removed from any kind of real electronics manufacturing at scale.

    This kind of thing takes generational knowledge to get right and we outsourced that knowledge a long time ago.

    We are now several generations from being able to manufacture electronics on the level.

    Either trump has no idea how anything works or he’s actively trying to destroy the American economy.

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    Can someone please explain to me why he STILL doesn’t have any understanding of how tarrifs work?

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      You’re making the mistake in that his intention is to improve things.

      He doesn’t have to make things better, he just has to say he has made them better. That’s all he’s ever done and it’s worked.

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      he STILL doesn’t have any understanding of how tarrifs work?

      How do you STILL think this isn’t all intentional? They know what they’re doing. They don’t care if we can afford it or not. This is about the conservatives’ bottom line, lol. They don’t care about you, America, China or whether any of it works.

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        It doesn’t do anything for their bottom life because the tariff is something we pay TO CHINA

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          A tariff is what you pay to the government of the port of call to get the item you shipped.

          When you pay $1000 for a DJI drone and it get’s to Seattle the US government says “pay us $600 or it goes back on the boat.”

          The Chinese company sees literally zero impact other than possibly less orders and probably a wave of refused merch. Which they might keep some or all of the purchase price of anyway.

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          Russia wants to pit the US and China against each other to distract and destabilize them both. So all of this is great for Russia’s bottom line.

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          The tariffs got them elected. The fallout of them is a write-off and not their problem. They were the means to an end for votes and swaying opinions and they did their job.

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    Rich get richer, poor people suffer. Americans are so f dumb i cant take it

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    TIL, lots of Trumps voters don’t even know how tariffs work and thought the foreign companies are the one who paid those instead of the domestic buyers themselves.

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      Doesn’t matter who the tax is levied against. All costs will be passed on to the buyer. They should be familiar with this idea. It’s the Republican’s key talking point against business taxes.

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    As someone who works for a large US-based company, we are locking in large contracts ASAP for compute power to hopefully keep us sated and avoid these from being an extinction event. We were already discussing some vendors not offering supply contracts already because they see the writing on the wall for their own profit margins

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    Seeing a stark void of “Fuck China” posts all of a sudden. Crazy what happens when the treat train gets held up at the border.

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      My phone was on its way out so I got something with better translation features and support for my move to Germany. Was it expensive? Yes. Is it less expensive than it will be? Also yes.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if this causes scalpers to start hoarding goods again like they did during the pandemic. Artificial scarcity but still cheaper than the official price on Amazon or whatever.

      Companies are pre-buying goods and laying off workers already, so why wouldn’t the citizenry?

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      Things like this take a while to finalize, so you’re good for now. Just wait until Black Friday to buy anything, since it’s so soon and lots of computer stuff goes on sale.

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    Isn’t thwre a single one RISC-V capable production line in the US? Imagine if Apple starts their own chip production.

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      There’s a reason TSMC does most of the world’s chip fabrication.

      It’s complex and extremely expensive. Standing up a fab, in America no less, capable of handling Apple’s demand would be an astronomically expensive feat. Apple would never do this while TSMC is still an option. Even after the tariffs it would still probably be cheaper to use TSMC.

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        TSMC is for bleeding edge chip. 10nm and above are produced everywhere. Mostly 28nm, since it is the cheapest. It won’t be easy to build 5nm fabs but I bet still doable.

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        Also let’s be honest, unless the tariff is applied to everyone it’s gonna be cheaper to use another country as a middleman to trade with with China.