Exclusive: US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources
neuters.de
Ukraine's access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in talks between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Bessent.
  • US negotiators told Ukraine US could shutoff Starlink if minerals deal not reached
  • SpaceX-owned satellite internet service vital for Ukraine
  • Zelenskiy says U.S. and Ukraine working on an agreement
  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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    21 hours ago

    Jesus fucking christ. If you do this, and exploit Ukraine while they are literally under the gun, the US will be dead to the rest of the western world.

    I cannot express how hard you can go fuck yourselves.

    The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans. Fuck you.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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        13 hours ago

        Come on doc, you’ve gotta help us, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!

        • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
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          12 hours ago

          what? you want more? i can turn the socialized healthcare lever on as well. there it is! right there.

          its so simple!

          any other changes you think you want? i can grab a magic wand, if that will make you feel better.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 hours ago

            Oh yes of course, the whole world has of course been watching the mass protests and general strike being organized with baited breath, oh wait.

            • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
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              10 hours ago

              what do you think I can do personally? on some level that would satisfy you?

              what would you do in my situation? just one person.

              tell us, mighty canadian of war! one who knows all answers! who rights all wrongs with his witless rage!

              oh won’t the angry canadian man save us with his wisdom??

              • tabarnaski@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                3 hours ago

                Vote. In every election. In the primaries. The city you live in. The school council. And convince everyone you know to vote, too. Protest. Strike. Make people you know angry about what’s happening so they are motivated to stir shit up. You still can change things, but you are right: you can’t do it alone. So find as many people you can who can do it with you. Time is running out.

                • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
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                  2 hours ago

                  you’re saying things I already know. but I appreciate your dedication! and agree with your sentiment.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      15 hours ago

      American here: hard agree. This is all insane, but it’s predictable, and they told us about it ahead of time, and people still fucking voted for it. We shat the bed, now we must lie in it.

      I’m probably gonna try to leave the country and renounce my citizenship at some point, particularly if the next few months are as catastrophic as I think they’ll be.

    • hornedfiend@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      17 hours ago

      I was planning a holiday in the US this or next year, but decided not to proceed with it. I’d rather go anywhere else now really. Currently for me Russia = India = China = North Korea = USA now. Plenty of european countries I’d rather throw my money at.

      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
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        10 hours ago

        Come visit us in Canada! It’s beautiful here. Better come fast before Trump decides to invade us for our oil and minerals though. I expect it’ll be much less beautiful after that, and we won’t have as much time to spend with you while waging a guerilla resistance.

        • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
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          10 hours ago

          That’s true, the spellings are very different.

          But otherwise they’re all countries ruled by petty men trying to project their power and rob their neighbours of their resources, liberty, and lives.

      • Sturgist@lemmy.caEnglish
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        15 hours ago

        I feel this. I would love to see Russia, China and India…but there’s not a chance that I would knowingly give my money to those regimes. Not even through participating in their economy for half a week.

    • Bloomcole@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      20 hours ago

      Are you one of those Galician offspring ‘canadians’?
      You sound really upset in a fanatical mentally unstable kind of way.
      🤣

    • Mister_Feeny@fedia.io
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      21 hours ago

      The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans.

      As an American, I’d just like to say we absolutely deserve this.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        11 hours ago

        No we don’t. Trump deserves to be kicked to the curb, but Americans are absolutely fine, if a bit short sighted.

        A country is not its leadership, it’s the people. And it’s incredibly hard for the people to replace their leadership outside of election season, and even then, there’s a lot of pressure to make poor choices on your ballot.

        • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
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          10 hours ago

          it’s incredibly hard for the people to replace their leadership outside of election season

          What have you tried? Have you written any letters? Protested? Marched? Gone on strike?

          There’s a whole lot of defeatism in your comment and I’m getting major “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas” vibes.

          • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            4 hours ago

            letters aren’t going to do anything, neither will striking.

            The current System does not legally give many ways to impeach an elected official.

            It is impossible to legally remove a president from power outside of election season without the legislative branch.

            Furthermore, there is no federal level system in place to allow for a recall of anyone in the legislative branch, some states have successfully implemented state level recall laws to revoke their elected officials but this is not a universal thing). Disciplinary functions in the legislative branch is predominantly decided by the branches themselves, which works fine if you have a functional branch, but if you have a branch that really doesn’t care then no punishments get done

            The most the everyday citizen can really do is:

            1. if you are in a state that has an elected official that is being toxic/against what your state actually wants, try to encourage a state recall petition (if you are in one of the 36(12 of which need specific actions to occur to trigger it) states that allow for it AND something has occurred that was ground for your states requirements for it)
            2. try to add such a system to your state if one does not exist (which would likely have to be on the ballot as well so would take awhile)
            3. or further educate yourself on what is going to be available on the 2026 midterms and vote accordingly.

            I don’t think there is much else anyone can immediately do that might actually get anything done.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            5 hours ago

            I’m in a red state with GOP reps. I really don’t think any of those will go anywhere.

            And not sure what going on strike would accomplish. My company isn’t based in the US, my boss isn’t American (and likes Trump), and 2/3 of my team are outside of the US anyway. I like my company and my boss, and going on strike would just get me fired for no reason. Why would I do that? My company didn’t donate to him or anything, so how would pissing my boss off accomplish anything?

            The only effective measures I have would put my family at risk, and those have a remote chance of working. Why would I do that? It’s illogical, especially when the chances of Trump actually becoming a dictator are slim to none.

            I’m not going to screw up my life just for some internet cred. I’ll do what I did in the last three elections: vote against him and urge those around me to do the same. Not that it matters, because the Republican will always win my state and district, but it’s something.

            The most effective use of my time is to largely ignore him. Anything else is illogical IMO.

      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.caEnglish
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        14 hours ago

        All Amerikans deserve this and worse because they sit at home and complain online while a literal textbook definition of a coup is happening to their country. The country that literally screeches at the top of its lungs about the second amendment and right to have a gun “in case of a tyrannical government”. Not a single shot fired. No protests, just complaints. Y’all gave up your country without a fight.

    • marv99@feddit.orgEnglish
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      21 hours ago

      I understand your feelings, and I share them. Let’s stay strong and united, refusing to let fear or hatred divide us. Remember, we have allies in America who stand against extremism and are working tirelessly to promote justice and equality. There is a growing movement of brave activists, judges, and everyday Americans who are standing up against these challenges. It’s crucial that we support them and let them know they are not alone. Together we are stronger.

      You can find an overview of the current resistance in yesterday’s post on Substack: https://robertreich.substack.com/p/ten-reasons-for-optimism

      • Broadfern@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        16 hours ago

        As someone who didn’t vote for the Cheeto Nazi, thank you for the nuance.

        That said, comment OP and anyone reading this - please boycott and sanction the US! Starving the billionaire leeches and smacking government into pretending they have an iota of decorum or sense is necessary, and any outside influence on that is helpful.

    • overload@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      21 hours ago

      I think a global boycott on US-made goods + services is necessary. Trump can only do this because the US is such a powerhouse.

      • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
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        7 hours ago

        As an American, I’d like the boycott to be more targeted. But yes, every company that licks the boots of this obviously fascist regime should see no more sales. I don’t have a full list, but it includes at least Meta, Alphabet (Google), and Amazon.

      • Zeoic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        16 hours ago

        That is already happening in Canada. Those imperialists threatening annexation was finally what brought us Canadians together on something lol

      • eran_morad@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        18 hours ago

        Just relax and let trump continue destroying the USA. He’s doing putin’s work and fucking us all, Europeans and Americans alike.

      • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
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        19 hours ago

        Would be nice to see global sanctions against the US. Not realistic, but I hope all countries are moving towards significantly reducing American reliance. It’ll be a slow process, but needs to be done.

        • Vipsu@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          19 hours ago

          Honestly sanctions agains companies like these that can be weaponized politically sounds very reasonable.

          They are national security threat in the true meaning of the word.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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        21 hours ago

        If they forcibly colonize Ukraine in response to Russia’s war, I hope that literally every single person around the world takes it upon themselves to spit in every American’s food, that’s how much I’ll want them to go fuck themselves.

        Pariah fucking scum.