Since OP decided not to post it, here’s the extra text:
“This is one of those comics that causes a bunch of readers to check in on my mental health, isn’t it?”
I much prefer when OPs include it in the description.
Did not know SMBC features extra text, but in my defence I’ve linked the source
Ah, sorry. My apologies. Thanks for linking it though, that’s great. I do recommend checking out the extra text (I think it’s on every comic), it’s sometimes better than the comic haha. Sorry again, I shouldn’t have assumed you knew about them.
No worries, I’ve learned something new 👌
It would do you honour to link to the source, too. It is not that hard.
FWIW I checked the comic at SBMC and Im not sure what extra text they are talking about unless the author shared said extra text on a social network, but I don’t see anything you missed from your source.
If you click on the comic (at least on mobile) the extra text comes up (on the site). I think there is some for every comic.
I did though. I do not see said text.
You gotta long press on the picture
Oh so its the unfurl description. Interesting, but maybe a little obtuse for most users to find.
Also doesnt show up on mine in the menu or on the share screen. Just when it unfurls in a chat.
But I use Fennec and /e/OS so likely a user experience difference.
You get to be one of todays lucky 10 thousand!
It’s one of those holdover things a good number internet old webcomics do, including the linked XKCD. It’s one of those things that’s effortless with your traditional mouse-keyboard desktop setup, because you hover your mouse and magically the alt-text appears without having to really find it. But for new users in the touch screen era? As you say, yeah, definitely obtuse. :)
But they were alive in my head and my existence is only validated by my perception. Thus, they were real. I perceived therefore I experience reality.
I dunno. I’m not like a philosopher or anything
Heart breaking
Yes, but what they represent is what’s beautiful. Things do not need to be real to have inherent meaning.
After all, it’s not what is real, it is what we experience that matters. Ever found yourself in another place when reading a book? Experienced a game so immersive that you are the character? Cried over a movie?
None of this is real. But all of this matters.
Long winded way of saying materiality is fleeting and immateriality is all.
Not quite; ultimately, what you experience is brought to you by material objects and events; we just consider our thinking and perception to be immaterial to maintain integrity with our limited perception.
The book you read is material. The game you play is a set of pixels on a material screen captured by your retina. The very thought you have while considering the immaterial is actually very material, with electrons traveling through the synapses of your brain neurons. At the end of the day, everything is material, and immateriality is nothing.
I think you are completely disregarding the existence of the third state.
While the brain is material, it is not just. You say to maintain integrity with our perception but you refuse the first acknowledgement of Rene Descartes. The dude essentially discovered his namesake.
Material, immaterial, and both. Before we get into the nonsenses of Hubbard, when I say both it is a temporary and fleeting state. The material is the vessel for the immaterial. The immaterial can exist devoid. Death for example is a constant and is completely immaterial yet as a concept we can allocate it to anything, even that which has no life. Remember the past is gone and the future is an illusion, because they are completely internalized immaterial states of being. Facilitated by your body but ultimately designed by things ultimately no longer material in a whole sense.
You get deep enough into this and you’ll have to bring up the ship of Theseus as this whole subject would relate to our definition of an item being, not being, or partly being. You are still you even if materially you are not the same. Yet your mind never stopped, never did it notice the change until it had already been done.
The material decays, the immaterial continues changing but locked in form. For example god has no physical domain indetifiable yet it keeps breathing. With no matter to speak of?
Death and God are merely concepts brought about by the currents in our neurons. And through this quirkiness instilled in us through the imperfection of evolution, we started seeing lack of something as a concept of its own, even though it’s still a strictly material circumstance directly related to presence of a respective concept.
Death is simply lack of life (which is why we can attribute it to something that didn’t live in the first place). Vacuum is similarly just a lack of matter. It’s the same, just two sides of a spectrum defined merely by the material circumstances.
Descartes merely found he existed regardless of the reality of perception, which, yes, he did.
The time is yet another coordinate of spacetime. What happened in the past is merely off one coordinate same as when we move left or right. What will happen in the future is also off the same coordinate. It’s all there, materially - but we can only be present in one place at a given time - and vice versa, move it one second and you and the planet you stand on are in a wildly different place, and you’ll never return.
And God is just something we imagined not to feel alone and scared in the grand realm of the Universe. Who says He needs breathing? Who says He is alive? Who says He…is?
The person breathes and utters god, yet no god has ever breathed.
The person lives and yet no god has ever lived.
My point is that god as a concept exists with no material form. If you are to say all immateriality exists with material. Then by your evidence if the concept of god exists, is it the neurons making it exist, is that the body of god?
It is the person who breathes into it life. As a material object it is not, it can be written and spoken and traverse the material. Yet wholely it remains in the immaterial domain of man, imperceivable by any other being. It is immaterial for the dogs cannot listen and they cannot fathom.
To say time is a coordinate is to map something immaterial as well, time passed and yet nothing changed. Time flows, yet nothing makes it move.
Rene discovered rebirth.
My point is that the concept of God, or any other concept for that matter, never unbounds the material carrier. It could be the neurons in your brain, or letters in a book we learn to transform into the neural activity, or something else - but it is always material.
If all people die, all books rot, all hard drives lose surface charge, all material evidence of the concept gets destroyed, so does the concept itself. It doesn’t persist outside the material - we just learned to replicate it and taught others to restore materially bound knowledge to make it last ages.
This is, by the way, exactly why concepts remain in the “human domain”. We don’t have any kind of special affinity to the “immaterial”; we are simply the only animals that can convert letters and drawings (which are material) to respective neural activity (which is also material), and vice versa, thanks to the evolutionary development of respective brain parts. This allows us to be more efficient at communicating concepts, even without personal presence, as long as you both agree on what symbols mean.
As for time, it’s not moving anywhere. It is us moving through it, similarly as we move through space with Earth without ever doing anything, or to falling off a cliff, for example. As any concept, time is what we formulated to explain to ourselves why things happen the way they do, and to predict what happens next. What we objectively experience we then attribute to the flow of time, yet the Universe is more complicated, and time gets “warped” (or rather, it does what it always did, it just falls out of a simple human perception) all the time in all the places. Think of black holes, or near-light travel, or even GPS satellite clocks needing correction because they literally move through time differently. The concept of time is merely a reflection of the immensely interrelated processes happening in the Universe. Yet, they’re all material, and so is the man-made concept of time flowing through our neurons.
Even after all these years, I recognized this as Saturday morning breakfast cereal!
Worse, they were AI generated.
I had a dream once where a woman grabbed my head, looked me in the eye, and said “when you wake up I won’t exist.”
Freaked me out
I had a dream where I was in a group project back in high school, and I was apologizing to all of my group mates because I knew it was a dream and I was gonna wake up soon and leave them with all the work.
Oh my god, are you okay? That’s one of those you never let go of.
He’s okay, it’s the woman who’s in trouble here.
I wonder if he ever woke up. This is sad.
Maybe that’s why right wingers are so anti-woke, they’re worried they’re part of someone else’s dream …
I hope he did, because if he didn’t then that means we’re inside his dream too.
In which case we need to make sure he never wakes up.
Your right we must save the woman, to save the world.
Save cheerleader == save world!!!
You could make a religion out of this.
(plz no)
It’s basically the religion in the Elder Scrolls games (Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind).
Ultimately above the deadra and all that, there is the sleeper. There’s a “dream sleeve” between their reality and the sleeper. If you can be spiritually free enough you can rise above and into the dream sleeve. Then you become like a God.
My favorite quote:
Everything we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.
Edgar Allen Poe
Row, row, row your boat
Nah dude I lost my purse on my bike ride today, then had to backtrack which made me run out of battery 30 miles into a 40 all because I was a dingus and didn’t secure it properly like I usually do. Now I have a sunburn and my legs ache and I was having a nice ride without moving my toothpicks. Wake him the fuck up.
It is nice to have something trivial to complain about though.
Has anyone found an exploit, by the way? I can see our fore-hacker Hitler killed millions trying to hang the system, or Musk accumulating money trying to overflow the registers, to no avail. I mean, it has to have vulnerabilities if it’s a dream, which is just a simulation.
lol
I’d argue that non-existence is far less troublesome than the reverse.
Do you know what would be even more freaky? If you saw her again.
If you do see her again, make sure you go straight to her and give her your most affectionate kiss. Worst case scenario is that it is the reality and you go to jail for two weeks. It’s totally worth it.
Was your dream this xkcd?
Relevant xkcd
Oh good it wasn’t my idea so she’s not actually real
She does, though. Your brain created her.
She is you.This is the idea of this song, which I love https://youtu.be/k7kSKU4cD-g
Edit: the song is Make Me Real by shemusic, in case the YouTube link is a problem for anyone. Available everywhere including Bandcamp.
Get rekt dream lady
My eldest lad is growing up too fast - he’s got lots of hobbies, one of which needs a lot of fitness so I try and get out with him once a week for a half hour run - partly to introduce him to cardio training but mainly to just get some time alone with him before he realises his dad is an arsehole.
It’s great. Admittedly, he’s just “Roblox Roblox Roblox Roblox Roblox Roblox can we go to the shop Roblox Roblox” but it’s time with him to talk to me about whatever he wants and it’s time that I absolutely adore. I hope when (if) he chooses to have kids, he’ll look back and think “hey that was some decent dad time I had outside the house”.
I’m also secretly hoping that if he’s ever going through a rough time in life that he’s keeping to himself and we’re still out banging miles into the tarmac, then somewhere between “what’s your favourite Grow Your Garden pet?” and “I just got a badge in Doors for using a crucifix on door 69 while getting chased by rush”, there’ll be a little breadcrumb or hint at a drama that we can talk about and ease his mental health just a tiny bit.
Who knows. A dad can hope.
Awwww. A caring dad. They will see and remember this.
Honestly I’d be happy if they remember it and adopt the same approach to spending time with folk - whether it be their friends, colleagues, maybe even their own bairns in due course.
arsehole
Nah. I don’t give a shit about anything else you do or have done, you being a good dad to your kid negates all that shit.
Yeah fingers crossed!
I think there’s a point in most people’s lives though where they look up to their leading figure in life - be it father; mother; caregiver; whatever - and realise that they’re not perfect and they’re just as prone to making daft mistakes as anyone.
It was a sobering moment for me - I suppose it just makes you realise that they’re just another person trying to make the best in life and sometimes shit just goes sideways.
I mean, twenty years later I still feel like I’ve got my shit held together by thin string and willpower - adulting is hard work 😂
I just made “Father of the Year” by enforcing a time limit on my 12 yo playing with his friends on the computer, so his younger brother could play, and now he’s in his room in tears. Yeah, adulting sucks sometimes.
Yeah refereeing is hard too. Sometimes I want to yeet the controller out the window so nobody plays and solve the fairness problem that way… but then I’d have to listen to both of them bleat on about it!
You can only do your best 😊
Omg, I feel this so goddamn much
Big Community: The Board Game energy.
Reminds me of the self aware board game commercial family on Community.
Couldn’t remember it so I had to look it up. https://youtu.be/lMW58MiSLe0
Sounds like a rewatch is due!
Hold up. I’ve watched the whole series, twice. Yet I’ve never seen that ‘advert’!!?! I’m confused.
It’s from the end of the last episode, between the #andamovie hashtag and the credits.
Thank you.
How about the Twilight Zone episode:
This is Not a Song, it’s a Sandwich by Psychostick.
I enjoy how much he appeared to revel in it:
The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it’s just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture “This is a pipe”, I’d have been lying!
The little scamp…
Ce ne sont pas des gens.
They are having the best day of its life, for ever.
You woke up with a memory of this day but it never happened.
I fully expected in big font underneath:
9/11/01
What happened on November 9th 2001? Some sort of beach monster?
An extremely American event that should obviously get an American date, and you should get called out if you don’t put it in an American format.
It’s not “an American date”, it’s just a date format (that belongs to whoever is stupid enough to want to use it)
“The month–day–year (MDY) format (like September 6, 2025) is called the U.S. date format or American date format because it’s primarily used in the United States and a few other countries.”
Also it’s obviously that format because 9/11
911 that date was a deliberate mockery of America and that is the reason that date specifically was chosen if you use any other format it completely ignores history and lore of the 9/11 event.
I agree this is a confusing date* but using literally anything else in this context is completely oblivious to the events that went on.
*Of course if an entire society has said that this is the date we are going to use then that would make any other date as confusing as any other date despite some arbitrary numerical order.
Young Zach was really going through some shit, huh?