It always ends up the the dogs are kept in the yard or kenneled the entire time
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The woman, who was in her 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene in Cornwall Close, Hornchurch, and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.
A spokesperson for the Met said: “Police were called to Cornwall Close around 1.12pm … to reports of a woman attacked by a dog.
“These were registered XL bully dogs and prior to officers’ arrival had been contained inside a room in the house.
From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate.
Footage of an XL bully dog attacking members of the public in the street in Birmingham, including a 11-year-old girl who sustained shoulder and arm injuries, prompted an outcry in September.
In November 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis was mauled to death by a seven-stone XL bully dog called Beast.
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Cripes, what kind of a dick do you have to be to your own dogs to get attacked by them?
The kind of dick that keeps dogs like that in the first place.
She was probably made of meat
Sometimes the breed temperament has more to do with it than anything else….
But also assholes all seem to like the same breed so….
My buddy legit owns a dire wolf (half wolf, half dog) and never had a problem in the last ten years. He owns a large chunk of property so the dog isn’t restricted to one room in an apartment in the city, and he knows how to handle a large animal. I will say one thing, that thing commands respect, it’s easily 7 foot from back paws to front paws.
Even pitbulls are safe in the right hands. Fuck it, tigers and lions and silverback gorillas are safe in the right environment.
However a proper education in caring for the animals aswell as proper enclosures and a knowledge of the animal and its needs….
Yes you CAN do it, but should Tom from down the street have his own pitbull army and alligator pool in his back yard?
Hard pass.
I’m sure some people can do it safely, but training, registration, safety, etc…. Ban them all as pets unless you get X license, like a gun.
You barely need to pass a background check to get a gun, lol. It’s harder to get a driver’s license. I’m not saying your wrong, just using a gun as reference is not the best comparison. If your doing private transfer of gun ownership, which is completely legal in most states, the background check is irrelevant.
I’m Canadian…. Slightly different standards.
I’m unfamiliar with Canadian law but I bet if your friend or neighbor wanted to sell a gun and you wanted to buy, the background check process would be a lot easier than if you went to a retailer like Walmart or whatever, and would probably still be considered legal.
When my step dad died, it was a difficult process trying to legally sell his hand guns. You can’t buy guns from Walmart here either. That’s so strange that you can where you’re from.
Also guns are inanimate objects
They might be inanimate objects but they are much more destructive than dogs. Can a dog kill you? Yes. Can a gun kill you? Yes, but a gun is much more likely to get the job done than a dog.
Actually all a gun can do is sit there. There is zero chance of your gun killing you. You might accidentally kill yourself with it, but the gun is never going to kill you.
Breed temperament is a thing, but all dogs can be good dogs. Most are good with only slight work. People get a breed they can’t handle and no one’s happy.
It pains me to say this as a great dog lover, and someone that has known some very loving pitbulls, Sadly not all dogs can be good dogs.
Like people, some are just born as “assholes”
But yes, breed temperament is a thing. Not an absolute thing, but still a thing.
There is no evidence that she was being terrible towards the dogs
Some dogs can just snap and decide to not be nice one day, its a good reason you don’t let dogs you’ve seen be calm interact with babies because it only takes a small amount of the dog not being nice to end up harming a baby
Older people have a better chance of surviving dog attacks but the chance isn’t 100% and cases like this can happen
And if I recall correctly this breed is more prone to aggressiveness
I doubt it. Not walking them enough, keeping them cooped up, no outlets - especially if they weren’t fixed. Sad all around, but the dogs are not hatching evil plans, they’re just dogs.
Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter. And adopt.
Dogs can still have the potential to snap regardless if you’ve given them a good life
They could just snap from having a tantrum
Dogs that snapped are not being evil, it’s just them acting on instinct. It’s doesn’t make them bad dogs, but it does make them dangerous.
It was two xl bully Yorkies I’m guessing.
Judging by this thread, I’m honestly surprised someone hasn’t said that Chihuahuas are more dangerous yet.
I mean, you’re probably more likely to get bit by a Chihuahua than a pitbull.
But a pitbulls bite is a little bit worse.
i get that some dogs just have a naturally high prey and aggression drive but a lot of times it has to do with learned behavior at home too :(
No, it’s the video games fault!
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This. She must have been giving them treats whenever they killed her.
Very sorry for the life of this lady.
Shitbulls should be banned.
The lady across the street from us used to own a small dog, I think it passed and she recently got an XL bully. She struggles to walk it, always looks angry with the dog, it’s always barking and glaring at me and my family. I have been carrying my gun more recently because I’m waiting for the day that dog decides to try to make a meal out of my two-year-old.
Why are dognuts the way they are? Just get a fucking pom.
Gun nuts are worse
If she was unable to control them, she should not have gotten permission to own them in the first place.
Definitely think owning dogs should require a license and a test of some sort like driving a vehicle.
Can’t control a 120lb dog? Class B license instead of Class A license.
Only allowed to buy dogs under 100lbs.
Don’t understand how feeding and training works? No license for you.
Licenses for being able to own non-fixed animals as well. Being able to breed dogs and cats needs to come with way more responsibility as well.
What if a dog grows over 100 american freedom units (lbs)
I’m assuming the fact that dogs grow would probably be accounted for in the license. It’s a well documented phenomenon.
Now do kids.
Now do whatnow!? Are we still doing phrasing? That still a thing?
There is no need, birthrates are already falling.
But the ones breeding shouldn’t be…
There should be, but I expect the unintended consequence is a severe drop in birth rate.
How is that bad? Less pollution and garbage, no need for as much housing (thus dropping house prices), no need for as many stores, vehicles, resources.
And less shitty parents, less homeless people, less crime. I see that as an absolute win.
And this is why we can’t have nice
thingsdemocracy.Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
It was almost 100 years ago, but yeah, everything leads to Hitler eventually.
No… no. Not everything, but rhetoric like in your comment.
You’re literally cheering on eugenics, with a false hope of what it would achieve.
i think murder is already illegal
The UK used to have dog licences, but they were abolished in 1987. https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/RP98-6/RP98-6.pdf
The Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 was amended to ban XL bully dogs in February 2024 unless an exemption certificate is held. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66775985
Didn’t even need to put the breed in the title, we already know.
That’s very naive. There’s plenty of breeds of dogs that kill people.
Yeah, that’s true, but in the UK XL Bullies specifically have been doing all the maulings recently that have generated serious press coverage; also they themselves have just been added as the sixth (?) banned canine breed in the UK.
Large dog breeds need to be trained very carefully. My friends have a 100 lbs husky, just a massive wolf looking dog. When he was a pup, he was food protective, so they made sure to train that behavior completely out of Steel(the dog).
In the present day, Steel is 8 years old, in the prime of his physical size and health, and the sweetest boi. With different owners, he’d have negative habits that lead his behaviour and made him dangerous.
Ban pitbulls everywhere
Ban bad owners
Make it so you need to have proven you can properly take care of one/need a license to own one. But also, neuter/spay all existing ones so no more can be born. They’ve suffered enough from human stupidity, and there are plenty of other dogs out there to choose from that need love.
people should be required to have really serious animal rescue and psychology training to get one of these dogs (or else astronomical punishment). most people who get these dogs do so on a whim and because of their own unresolved ego issues.
Some are good boys that need a home. We adopted a dog of unknown breed, they had his mom (who looked like a black mouth cur), who came in from a kill shelter pregnant.
I still don’t know what breed he is, really don’t care to find out. But he has a lot of bully features. Big puffy chest. Blocky head. Strong jaw. Smart. Highly emotional.
And he’s a fucking marshmallow. An 80lb slobbery marshmallow.
If my dogs ever tried to kill me, I’d just pin them both down. That’s the benefit of not having insanely powerful dogs.
IMO you shouldn’t have a dog that you can’t physically restrain. Any dog can snap and you need to be able to physically stop them if that happens.
Any dog can snap
Dishonest statement. That’s like saying “Any ceiling fan can decapitate you”. Technically true, but so extraordinarily unlikely for most breeds that you should be more worried about car crashes if you fear for your life…
Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?
I’d be careful with such stuff bought directly via temu or alibaba.
Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?
ceiling fan breeds
“I don’t understand. I bought a ceiling fan with razor edge blades to scare off burglars, but it fell down and decapitated grandma”
When I asked them about the fan’s history, all they would tell me it is got shipped up here from Texas
This one time I was dealing with an exhaust system that split to two separate paths. The blowers were so powerful that if one was on it could move the other backwards which caused the VFD on the other one to fault. It was pretty cool.
You should worry about ones like that.
Ban fully semiautomatic assault fans
But yeah, I deal with Delta/Sanyo Denki fans from time to time and I’m not volunteering to get anywhere near them
I don’t think any ceiling fan could decapitate me. They are blunt wooden blades and the motor is like 1/3 HP but usually not on full.
So it’s like saying, “any fan might hit you in the head, don’t put a metal sharp-bladed industrial exhaust fan on your bedroom ceiling.”
Hmm, you make a good point.
Animals are still animals. It isn’t dishonest to say that we should respect them and their space through understanding and recognizing their behavior. Don’t allow your love for an animal cloud the basic judgment that every animal may have its moment. Don’t be afraid, just be aware.
Any ceiling fan can fall unexpectedly, but only an absurdly sturdy and powerful one will decapitate someone when it comes down
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Yep. We’re on the same page now!
What if you have a very dainty neck?
You don’t have a Big Ass Fan in your rec room!?
Any breed can produce a dog that is prone to snap.
Some breeds are much more likely to do so.
Of those, only a few are both prone to snap and large enough to hurt you.
Oh those, pit bills are far and away the most aggressive.
That said, most pitbulls really are fine. For being the most dangerous breed, there are millions of pitbulls, and a few thousand incidents over a few years.
Clearly, you have never pissed off a chihuahua.
My fat ass has consumed bigger meals than a mass of a Chihuahua.
A Chihuahua can be yeeted into the stratosphere by 99% of humanity. Not so for other breeds
I hope you’re not a bleeder.
You say that like you’ve seen a calm Chihuahua.
Does Lemmy has a Ban Pitbulls community yet?
I wonder if Lemmy will be any more Normal about dogs than snoosite was
This must have flown right by me, but what was Reddit’s attitude?
All pits are violent and will maul any passing child. It was pretty annoying.
pitbulls are disproportionately predisposed to all kinds of violence/mauling. Even though it’s not their fails since they were specifically bred for that purpose.
There is at least an entire sub dedicated to hating on pit bulls. I think multiple subs. During its time a few years ago, one specific sub could make it to the top of r/all with 10,000+ upvotes.
Reddit really doesn’t like pit bulls.
You’re in for a treat, as Internet Comment Etiquette with Erik released a video last week, where he actually goes into those REddit dog subs. If you’re unfamiliar with this channel, please know it’s entirely satire, most of the time. Well worth a watch!
Dude, thanks for posting this.
Refreshing to see actual discussion rather than the trite copy and paste “oh gee whizz I wonder what the breed it” posts
Dogs? Yes. Satan incarnates born to kill? No.
I can absolutely tell you the pitbull hate has arrived. I have 3 wonderful pits who adore our 10yr and 6yr niece and nephew. They cuddle up with them like teddy bears everytime they come over but according to people here, they want to maul the kids faces off…
How people can’t understand that it’s not the dog, it’s the trainer and environment the dog is brought up in.
Why can’t you understand that being capable of snuggling does not make a pitbull incapable of killing.
Hate in general is mostly irrational and sadly propaganda plays into the tribalistic nature of humans.
I bet that was the lady’s thoughts too.
“They’ve never killed me before!”
Because pitbulls can be raised in a loving environment with great humans and you can do everything right and the pitbull can still be set off or triggered by something many years into its peaceful life and suddenly start attacking people. They can have a moment where they simply snap, and given their strength and determination, that’s dangerous and horrifying.
And people who consciously decide to keep them in their own household, with their own children, are willfully ignorant or downright evil.
To claim that it’s entirely environmental is to flaunt longstanding understanding on how genetics works. Nobody looks at border collies, with their high intelligence, and say “oh it’s just environment”, or chihuahuas being territorial little shits and say “oh it’s just environment”. These dogs were ENGINEERED to be this way, it’s in their bones.
Pitbulls have been specifically bred for their toughness, their aggression, their locking jaw, and because you happened to get a couple good ones doesn’t invalidate the fact that they are statistically one of the most dangerous breeds to own.
The fact that you just cited the completely made up “locking jaw” myth really shows how valid and researched your opinion is on this topic…
The fact you misrepresented their point to make it sound like a gotcha moment says more about you then the person you replied to.
Honest question. Why do you think aggression isn’t a trait that can be selectively bred for or against? Surely you agree other traits can be bred – herding and pointing, to use some common examples.
My Maltese does not have the physical capability of harming me. No temperament test required.
Not scientific but from observing human behavior in my own weird family genetics mixup, I am convinced that creatures behavior is 80% genetics and 20% environment. And bull-breeds were bred to aggressively tear apart other living creatures.
Those who toy with the devil are sure to get burned, huh?
