Amongst other allegations, Courtney Love said they had oral sex when she was just 12 years old.
More about the allegations against him here.
What an awful day to be literate.
Huh, se he’s one of the reason Courtney Love is that way that she is.
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Republicans love him because of course they would.
They are the party of “every allegation is an admission”.
The only other musician that’s firmly in their camp is Kid Rock and I wouldn’t wish that fate on anyone
and kid rock also wrote a song about diddling kids that appeared in the movie Osmosis Jones!
“Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage see Some say that’s statutory (But I say it’s mandatory)”
I try and ignore Kid Rock as much as possible and didn’t think my opinion of him could get any lower. I was wrong, very, very wrong.
My shit pants guy
I respect but also feel sorry for people who are sexually attracted to children, but manage to control themselves. They have to work extra hard constantly just to not be monsters, while the rest of us never even have to worry about that.
I respect people who […] manage to control themselves
That’s such a weird thing to say though.
Imagine you are in love with someone but they are not interested. Do you take pride in the fact you didn’t rape/groom them because you “managed to control yourself”?
We’re not animals. Controlling your sexual desires should be trivial for any decent human being.
I get what you are saying but I think it’s probably easier in general for people in normal relationships because even if they get rejected, they have an opportunity to form a relationship with someone else. Someone attracted to minors never gets that chance. They aren’t allowed (for good reason) to even try.
Obviously pedophilia isnt a great thing and pedophiles who abuse children should be punished severely, but I don’t think it’s a choice to be born attracted to minors. So it’s unfortunate for them. Definitely not an easy topic.
Controlling your sexual desires should be trivial
Maybe it should be, but is it actually trivial? Addiction in general is a real thing, isn’t it? For someone with say an eating disorder, maintaining a healthy diet isn’t trivial at all. Paraphilias are different morally where they involve harming others and not just yourself and so it’s more important to not act on them, but I’m not sure that means it’s easier for a person with a paraphilia than it is for other sorts of people struggling with controlling their behavior.
IMO what it comes down to isn’t whether these people deserve sympathy though, the more important consideration is preventing abuse. To me what the OP image shows is that the “just kill 'em all” attitude is unhelpful bullshit leading to pedophiles and abusers hiding in plain sight. What would be better is a conditionally supportive community that knows what they are and keeps tabs on them well enough to make sure they stay away from kids.
Thank you. Your response is better than mine would have been. I especially like what you have to say about the “‘just kill ‘em all’ attitude “.
I am sure you said this to gay people, too.
what mental gymnastics did you perform to jump to that conclusion?
I have a sneaking feeling that I’ll need some popcorn when looking at replies to this comment. I’ll be back later
Yeah, I almost didn’t post it. We’ll see!
No, I’m glad you posted it. It’s a valid point and I agree with you. Living in constant fear, disgust and denial must be exhausting and terrifying.
I’ll be keeping a close eye on the comments so this remains a civil discussion.
And even when they do control themselves consistently without fail, most people would still look down on them if they knew…
okay but ted nugent doesnt control himself
I’m not talking about him, then, am I?
Your point is valid, but my assumption when reading this comment is that Nugent is not someone that falls into op’s sphere of empathy.
Completely agree that Ted definitely does not appear to have exercised any restraint on his urges.
Not defending or attacking op’s comment, just trying to read it correctly.
You have read it correctly. I appreciate it.
Well this is certainly a thing that someone typed once. I’d counter that it’s not simply that people are innocently attracted to children and therefore deserve sympathy. I’d say there’s more involved in that attraction. You can’t reasonably engage in any romantic or sexual abuse encounter with a child without there being a totally lopsided power dynamic and a high degree of exploitation. I’d argue that for all such people this is what draws them to it. Within that context it’s not some innocent ‘miswiring’ of the brain but instead an individual that is completely unhealthy and mentally unwell that is entertaining the idea of grooming some child. That’s the part they are after.
I know there’s a movement to try and see pedophiles as anything but what they are and you can sit and have thought experiments about ‘the ones that act vs those that don’t’ but at the end of the day you are left with a deeply unwell individual that desperately needs inpatient psychiatric treatment, psychiatric medication, extensive counseling, and total separation from any children.
Well, you’d be wrong. Pedophilia is well studied. It’s attraction to children, and there’s a huge amount of variation in how that is expressed and how the psychology around it develops through a person’s life. Baselessly claiming that all people with pedophilia are just rapists who want easy prey is unhelpful nonsense.
Link for the lazy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Relationships_with_teenage_girls
“Well I don’t care if you’re just thirteen, you look too good to be true” lyrics from Ted Nugent - Jailbait
Gross
Oof. I was in the car today and Rick James’s 17 came on and I felt dirty just listening to it.
A little girl came up to me, acting young and shy
A look of curiosity was flashing in her eyes
She had seen my face before and thought she knew me well
So I said “Shall we talk some more, you’ll come to my hotel”
She was only seventeen, seventeen
But she was sexy
These celebrities really needs to find better hobbies than posting on Twitter/X.
Like shitposting on Lemmy.
Also, ew, Ted Nugent.
We’re all talking about how bad of a person he is, but not enough about how stupid he is.
I mean… if I literally wrote a song about wanting to have sex with a 13-year old girl four decades ago you could catch me dead before you see me ever mentioning anything related to minors or pedophilia in the rest of my life. Posting something like this is pretty much asking for people to dig up all the shit you did. Like I never heard about him before this and the first thing I know is that he’s a pedo. Great job I guess?
Oh boy, this guy. The Motor City Moron strikes again!
Ok but how are sexualities and plants related? I understand the joke is “kill pedos” but I’m missing something, can anyone help connect the dots?
Have you ever had an IQ test or similar? You sometimes get questions like “A car is to transport, what a fork is to ___” with the answer being “cutlery”. It’s not that transport/cutlery or cars/forks have anything in common, it’s about their relationship to the group.
So in the post it’s saying that “if you think paedophilla is just a type of sexuality, then murdering someone and burying their body is just a type of gardening”. It’s not exactly a flawless comparison, but that’s what they were going for.
…so I understand where you’re going with this, but I think it is such a poor attempt on his part that I’m still trying to understand it lmao. I guess you’re right, what else could it be really? Still makes no sense to me though.
Like I said, it’s not the best example but it’s also not the worst one of these I’ve heard, they can get really really obscure. Maybe this is a better explanation/translation:
“If paedophilla is as innocent as a “sexual orientation”, then burying your dead body in my garden is as innocent as “gardening.”
OH ok yeah your rephrasing here connected the dots, thanks. Hell it’s definitely one of the dumbest I’ve seen, I do not envy you lmao. Thanks for the help on that!
Who exactly is this directed at that thinks pedophilia is “just a sexuality?”
Seems like he’s just trying to sew the seed that LGBT activists support pedophilia, which they don’t
