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    You’d become malnourished. You’re missing C, folate, iron, etc. you’d live, but you’d be sick and you’d have damaged your body.

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        I did my phd studying the chemistry of vitamins, specifically, and iron, specifically. Scurvy can kick in after a month. If this person is a woman and menstruating, anemia can kick in within a month.

        Jesus, Lemmy is full of the same arrogant fucktards as reddit.

        lol.

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    You would be fine, you would need extra electrolytes and water.

    120g of protein per day

    36g of carbohydrates per day.

    15g of fat per day.

    You would lose weight, you’d be running at a calorie deficit. Assuming you had fat to start with everything would be fine. The protein levels are sufficient to maintain your muscle mass

    You probably get bored of that food pretty quickly.

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      You’d also need a vitamin. And if you’re like me you’d probably want to break your keyboard in half and shove it down your throat until you can’t see it anymore; cottage cheese is gross even before it becomes monotous.

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        if you’re like me you’d probably want to break your keyboard in half and shove it down your throat until you can’t see it anymore

        Are you okay?

        Edit: It’s fine if the answer is “no”.

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        The only useful thing I’ve found for cottage cheese is pranking people.

        Incidentally, if you rember the old plastic clad iMacs and powermacs from the late 90’s (with the clearish white plastic and “fun” color accents?)

        Those power Mac’s incidentally had a space just above the PSU perfect for keeping a cottage cheese at the right temperature for getting foul.

        Foul enough to clear out a computer lab for a week. (It was a boring class, anyway. I’m not sure they ever found the tub…)

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          we’d use it as poor man’s ricotta back in the day when we were making manicotti. I’m not sure about the price differential, but nowadays it’s easy enough to find ricotta and I’m not that poor.

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      Really? I’ve heard about rabbit starvation. Wouldn’t cottage cheese be lean enough to suffer the same? Or is there more to it than that (e.g. type of protein, lipids, etc.)?

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        You would not be getting enough bioavailable nutrients, but one month is not long enough for that to be a serious problem.

        This is not a healthy balanced diet, you could not live on it forever because of bioavailable nutrients and the like. But as emergency food, it’s fine.

        If you did not have excess fat at the start of this diet, you would have trouble. There is not enough fat here to keep you going.

        750 cals per day, assuming you need about 2500 cal a day, your deficit is about 2000kcals a day. 7700 cals per kg of fat. You would lose about 7.7kg of fat… If you maintain your original metabolic rate, but the body is adaptable, and it would reduce your metabolic rate while you went through this emergency diet

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          Ah, okay. What do you think might happen due to the comparative lack of carbohydrates? I don’t imagine you could enter ketosis on this diet. Not enough fat. Would the body burn more muscle tissue in spite of the high protein intake?

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            Ketosis is a metabolic state. It is the process by which your body converts fat into energy. Anytime you lose weight you have been in ketosis… Every night when you sleep your body goes into ketosis.

            What people commonly refer to as a ketogenic diet, is just a shorthand way of saying, eating food that maintains your fat burning preference.

            So this yogurt diet, will absolutely put you in ketosis, for no other reason than you’re at a caloric deficit per day.

            I am not aware of any reason your body would cannibalize your muscles when you have sufficient protein. People often do month-long fasts, as long as they maintain their metabolic rate/activites, they don’t lose significant muscle mass. But this is a function of your stored energy, so if you don’t have enough fat to make up for your metabolic deficit, that energy will have to come from somewhere as a priority to keep your brain alive. Don’t put your body in that position. The science around fasting, is highly contentious, so you’re going to get wildly different viewpoints on this.

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              But this is a function of your stored energy, so if you don’t have enough fat to make up for your metabolic deficit, that energy will have to come from somewhere as a priority to keep your brain alive. Don’t put your body in that position.

              So what you’re saying is I should keep excess body fat, just in case I need to eat only cottage cheese for a month?

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                The vast majority of people are already prepared for the cottage cheese challenge!

                I think the absolute minimum body fat percentage people should have is about 5%men 10%women give or take. Probably much higher. For for 50 kg person, that works out to about 7 kg of body fat minimum.

                However, if you want to be drought and famine resistant, you need to get those numbers up!

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              Oh okay, thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t aware of that. So I guess while you’re sleeping, as long as you haven’t eaten recently before falling asleep, then you’ll enter ketosis, right?

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                Ignoring glucogen reserves in muscles, the body doesn’t really have a way to store glucose, which is the energy you get from eating carbohydrates.

                So all of the glucose except for like 5 g in the blood, get stored as fat. You burn through that 5 g in your blood depending on your metabolic rate and activities in a few hours. This is why a lot of people who are eating carb heavy diets get hungry every few hours, The hangry advertising campaign. They’re just running out of glucose.

                Anyway, unless you’re waking up every few hours at night to snack, your body has to enter ketosis to provide energy while you sleep.

                The liver does have the ability to make glucose from fat, called gluconeogenesis, but it would still be burning fat to do that.

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        rabbit starvation

        FYI: For those that have never heard of the term:

        Protein poisoning (also referred to colloquially as rabbit starvation, mal de caribou, or fat starvation) is an acute form of malnutrition caused by a diet deficient in fat and carbohydrates, where almost all bioavailable calories come from the protein in lean meat

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning

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          Small tangent - I know this is going to probably be an internet fight, but there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate for human health.

          Bioavailable nutrition is in the fat in the meat, and in the organ meat such as liver.

          The Eskimos never died from a lack of carbohydrates.

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            The text says deficient in fat and carbohydrates. I’m pretty sure they mean it only happens when you don’t have enough of either, not that carbs are an essential nutrient.

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    That’s basically the Atkins diet (Keto) without enough nutrition. It’ll function like a very short, very uncomfortable, malnourished crash diet.

    You’ll spend the first two weeks craving carbs and sugars like your life depends on it. It’s awful. After that “break in” period, the cravings mostly go away.

    But that’s not all. So much as lick a piece of candy or chew on some bread, and you’ll get a large dopamine rush followed by carb-craving mode again. If sheer willpower and deferred rewards are at all a problem for you, this might feel like one of the hardest things you’ve ever tried to do.

    Edit: now that I remember, my grandma tried a “cottage cheese and grapefruit” fad/crash diet back in the 80’s. Turns out that one has been doing the rounds for almost a century. IIRC, it doesn’t work since it’s easy to underestimate how insanely difficult this is to do.

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      Did keto for a while preparing for some on-camera work. I’ve never looked more cut and never been so miserable. 9/10 doctors do not recommend. The 10th one has an eating disorder.

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        I lost 40lbs on keto and after the first week of keto flu, I felt great. No sugar crashes, no energy level drops and overall, more energy than usual. I stopped after six weeks as I couldn’t deal with the lack of flavour and texture in the food I was eating. I reached a good weight that I’ve maintained, 7 years later.

        One thing it taught me, was to reduce the amount I eat and to balance things out if I eat more carbs than usual.

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        I agree on those stats. Don’t forget: Atkins himself died from heart disease. But hey, at least you have the pics to prove it.

        Were it me, the potential for humor would be impossible to ignore:

        Me: “This diet is miserable, don’t do this.”

        Also me: shows pics looking more shredded that a bowl of mini-wheats

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      I actually tried keto some years ago on a lark. I quickly learned to avoid supermarkets since I could smell all the sugar in the baking aisle halfway across the store. Before posting this, I didn’t think such a high-protein, low-fat dirt could result in ketosis but I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

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        I forgot about the smells. My sense of smell shifted to be way more sensitive to sugars and starches too - it was tough.

        I didn’t bother trying to track fat intake and wound up losing 2+ lbs a month that way; not bragging, but my goal wasn’t all that big. I probably could have done things faster by cutting more fat, but it was already hard enough.

        I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

        Fascinating, isn’t it? It’s like each of us is just full of survival mechanisms.

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    So I can’t answer your question exactly, but, as many here know at this point, I have been suffering through an illness where I have not eaten any solid food since last August (please no medical advice). Before I got, with the help of doctors, settled on a liquid diet of 6 Ensures and 4 V8s a day, I lost 80 pounds- 260 to 180, I was dizzy and lightheaded all the time from the lack of electrolytes, and while I still don’t have much energy and have to rest for a while after walking the dogs for half an hour, I couldn’t even walk a couple of blocks.

    That said, my blood panels show everything is normal, so I’m clearly not dying. It’s not exactly a great quality of life, especially since our entire society is based around food in every conceivable way, but it is survivable. In fact, one good thing came out of it- I no longer have high blood pressure or high cholesterol, so I don’t have to take pills to counteract those anymore.

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      I’m sorry to hear you’re going through that. I can sort of imagine what you’re going through, and it’s certainly not fun, but it’s probably not a 1:1 situation. I really hope you get better though.

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            Sorry, I mean that I agree, it’s not a 1:1 comparison, but it might lead you down the road to finding the right sort of comparison by putting my experience with the experiences of others.

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              Oh yeah, true. I’ve already decided based on feedback that this isn’t a good way to meet my dietary needs without breaking the bank. I’m just proud to say that the extreme measures I’m considering aren’t due to an ED this time around. Just poverty this time.

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                Poverty sucks ass, I’ve been there. That said, you can get by for a long time with beans, rice and some veggies. Not a fun diet, but better than starving.

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                  Well, that’s kinda the chief problem. Last time I did that I suffered brain fog the entire time. Same thing happened when I tried vegetarianism. And on top of that, I lost a surprising amount of muscle mass on beans and rice. I think I need more protein than that diet can offer. It’s just a shame that it’s so bloody expensive…

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    It’s a scientific fact that you are what you eat. So following that logic, you would become a cottage cheese slime.

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    Since the comments indicate this is really a food budget challenge, let’s talk about that. What is your monthly budget for food? Do you have any dietary restrictions you want to target?

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      My budget at the moment is CAD$250 per month. 750g of cottage cheese a month would run me $225 at $7.49 a package. As others have indicated, it’s an unhealthily low amount of calories despite it meeting my protein requirements. The only dietary restriction that I need to target is getting enough protein for maintenance of muscle mass. The reasons are twofold: firstly, as I’ve indicated elsewhere, I have had issues with ED in the past. I fear that losing muscle mass would cause a relapse and I can’t afford that at present. More importantly, however, is that my current employment is fairly physical, so I can’t afford to get weaker either.

      So, to summarize: $250/month, maximizing protein per dollar.

      Issues with cottage cheese idea:

      • Unfulfilling psychologically
      • Potential for malnutrition/health complications
      • Extremely low-calorie

      Ideas to remedy the situation:

      • Cheap carbs (potatoes, flour, pasta/ramen)
      • Making things from raw (e.g. milk -> cottage cheese, flour -> bread)
      • Cheap meat

      I think animal protein needs to be a part of the solution. Tried vegetarianism in the past and I couldn’t function well on it. But all animal protein in Canada is expensive, either due to supply management (eggs and dairy), price gouging, supply and demand (e.g. price of chicken breast is ludicrous), or some other unknown factor(s). So plant based protein should also be part of the solution in spite of its lower quality. Others have suggested dried beans/lentils.

      It would be worthwhile to make things from raw. I can save roughly a dollar per kg of cottage cheese if I make the cottage cheese myself from milk. I can also use the byproducts in the making of bread, furthering the value and capturing all protein. There will be a significant time cost in doing this.

      At the moment we’re looking at a diet of homemade cottage cheese, bread, and beans. If I can save enough doing this then I could incorporate vegetables as well, but it might be better to just take a multivitamin and eat the psychological cost. This will only be for a month, potentially two, and hopefully not more. I think I can go that long without becoming too miserable. I’d love to hear some feedback if you have any.

      (Bonus solution: find a better paying job.)

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      I target about $400/month for two big kids and two preschool aged kids, and largely manage to hit my target. I shop almost exclusively at Aldi, and our diets are very heavy in dairy, crackers, frozen veggies and involve a weekly taco night and pizza night. Oh and about a dozen or two sandwiches a week.

      I often have toast or vanilla yogurt for breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. I’ve been trying to reduce sugars over the last couple of years (I’m not actually tracking it, but just watching for high values in any processed foods I eat, and making buying decisions partly based on the sugar content)

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    Weight loss. I don’t like cottage cheese but I do something similar with greek yogurt, eggs, and chicken breast. High protein is easy weight loss for me. Always listen to your body.

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      And if your doing a high protein diet make sure to watch your kidney function, make sure your doc does a kidney panel with every physical. I did low carb high protein for several months and my kidney numbers went from good to, not terrible, but not good either.