The sound of many of them exploding


  • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs. But they have not been able to gather enough intelligence from control of those communication devices to find and rescue the remaining hostages? And if they weren’t able to catch useful information from those devices, why did the people holding those devices deserve to get blown up?

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      2 months ago

      The hostages are in Gaza, not Lebanon. If Israel had this level of infiltration with Hamas, it is unlikely this would’ve started in the first place

    • Rolder@reddthat.com
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      2 months ago

      Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon, and the hostages are in Gaza? They have nothing to do with each other…

      • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Thanks. I honestly haven’t been following it all closely. (I guess that’s obvious from my last comment). But why blow up a bunch of people in Lebanon?

  • emmie@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Based Israel. I never liked them but honestly this is genius. I am starting to love them

    • bishopolis@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      I am starting to love them

      Be careful whom you worship.

      Based

      On second thought, you’ll be onto some new fad in a day.

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        2 months ago

        You read sentences from right to left. Wait… this is freaking hezbollah right here. Got em

    • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      It’s not genius at all. Torturing and raping people to death, bombing refugee camps, murdering doctors, journalists, lawyers, spreading disease, stopping humanitarian aid, cutting off water, and putting explosives in communications devices isn’t genius. It’s evil, depraved, fascist behaviour that anyone could do with enough power and lack of humanity.

      Do you look up to Nazis who put people in death camps genius too?

      • xhrit@lemmy.world
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        Meanwhile palestine is a literal fascist dictatorship run by billionaire kleptocrats, who’s government is officially listed as pan-arabic national socialist.___

  • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    So, what Israel is admitting here, is that they could individually pinpoint and target Hamas but instead carpet bombed Palestine into genocide.

    • Drusas@fedia.io
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      2 months ago

      Israel is obviously behind the attacks but has not taken responsibility for them yet. So no, they’re not admitting anything.

    • JoYo@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      supply chain attacks are dirty tactics too, they have no idea who is holding 3000 pagers when detonation.

      • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        For smartphones they actually could, they could tie the lipo pack serial number to the imei and work everything out from there.

        Then make sure it’s been unlocked via biometrics within a second or so.

        It’s very rare that someone else holds a phone to be unlocked for you, though it does happen, still the closest to a targeted kill.

        • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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          2 months ago

          You would have to guarantee those phones would eventually end up in the right person’s hands.

          Otherwise if you sabotage 100 phones and only 30 go to your targets, even if you only detonate those 30 there are now 70 phones out there randomly floating around with enough explosives to kill some random person.

        • ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          I use a code to unlock. Biometrics can be unlocked while unconscious or restrained. Fuck that.

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            Yes, but as I said, since English isn’t something you’re comfortable reading, you can do it only on biometric lock since that is the most likely assurance you have the right target.

            And yes, but if you’re unconscious or restrained, I don’t think collateral damage is your major concern.

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      They literally knew about the attack before it happened. Genocide was always the primary goal.

  • Navarian@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Five years ago, if you had asked me if Israel would be committing terrorist attacks across Palestine, Lebanon and beyond, I would have said absolutely not.

    I would have been wrong, even back then, but jesus fucking christ, what an absolute shambles.

    How my government supports this state-sponsored terrorism is beyond me.

    • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com
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      2 months ago

      Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants.

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        They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?

        Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?

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          2 months ago

          What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?

          • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Peace was never part of the plan for colonial genocide. Have you ever seen the zio genocide map? They’re planning on invading every neighboring state, stealing the land, and continuing with genocide.

            Why steal just one state when you can steal the whole region? It’s what god wants his chosen people to do. smh.

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              Wow that’s really interesting!

              Can you share some more info on Israel’s plan to conquer half the Middle East? This sounds very realistic now that you’ve mentioned it

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?

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                The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.

                Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.

                • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                  2 months ago

                  Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?

      • Navarian@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants

        How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?

        If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?

        Don’t be a genocide apologist.

          • acargitz@lemmy.ca
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            2 months ago

            And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?

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            2 months ago

            You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don’t need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that “military comms” can’t accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.

            • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com
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              Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can’t really get more targeted than that. There’s not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.

              • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah

                According to you. The cowards responsible haven’t admitted anything.

                But in reality they killed kids and many other innocent people as is usual for these genocidal terrorists.

              • Inktvip@lemm.ee
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                2 months ago

                Except that these pagers were distributed to more than just hezbollah. AUB (American university of Beirut) medical workers had them too, for example.

  • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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    2 months ago

    I saw this on Reddit first while I was checking my city subreddit, damn the headline there definitely gives a different impression.

    (The comments are all mostly jokes, didn’t even bother wading through them and came to see If Lemmy had a thread instead).

  • Hubi@feddit.org
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    2 months ago

    These guys were still carrying these pagers to the funeral of the last group getting killed by their pagers? 200 IQ move.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    This reminds me of when during sieges during the Middle Ages they used to lob the bodies of the dead back inside the castle. I’m not sure if it’s because of the lines they’ve crossed over and ignored regarding civilian casualties on this, or that this will essentially cause other parties to cross those same lines. This is giving ideas to China and Russia, and humanity has been far shittier in the past, I really don’t want to see how bad we will regress to.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    If this carries on, we’ll have exploding semaphore flags by the end of the week.