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      It wasn’t even exactly that. It was MILLIONS of people who voted Democrat previously just sitting this one out. I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

      “Trump is horrible, but the Democrats made inflation. I’m not voting for either.” (Conveniently forgetting COVID and the necessary cash injection that helped keep people paying bills on time and kept businesses afloat to be there to rehire when lockdowns ended.) Ignorance…

      Not that it was perfectly executed by any stretch of the imagination, but the alternative was everyone “non-essential” goes broke and businesses everywhere collapse. There was no world where we just didn’t do lockdowns, we don’t have the luxury of hindsight when something new happens obviously. We probably didn’t need the lockdowns because COVID spread regardless :(

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        I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

        I believe there were 15 million "oh look, Harris is besties with Liz Cheney and continuing the half assed approach that Dems keep doing so who fucking cares’ people. I totally see why her poll numbers kept dropping over the course of her campaign after a strong start.

        I still voted for her, but at that point is was just another vote against Republicans.

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          I think that takes more thought than even those who vote with us do. I think we seriously overestimate the political intelligence of the people in this country. Not to say 0% were those people, but if we’re talking millions I think we’re talking about typical ignorance.

          I think the vast majority vote D for social issues, but once their pocketbook gets hurt it’s time to sit it out or worse “punish” the party in power by voting for the opposition. :(

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            They succeeded in punishing the party. For a price. We’ll revisit later if it was worth it.

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              It would take 100 years minimum to undo the damage that will be done, so I’m going to say “not worth it”.

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                The damage to the environment will never be undone. The US will double-down on emissions and most other countries in the world will stop trying because they won’t think there’s any point anymore.

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                  Oh it will recover alright. About a million years after we go extinct. So in about 1.00005 million years.

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          So they thought through what it means to associate with a Cheney, but at the same time didn’t care enough to do anything about this situation? I don’t buy it. Apathy lost this election. And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

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            And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

            Agreed, which is why I still voted despite sharing the same demotivation.

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          All these people on these threads blaming it on the voters when Harris had it in her power to run a different campaign is just lazy. Harris not only had a brake she could pull to stop the “trolley”, she had a damned steering wheel to steer completely away from running people over, and she made a choice not to. Dont blame the peasants for shit leadership.

          Every single swing state lost. Both congress and the house lost. Thats a badly out of touch party, not stupid voters.

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            I call them ignorant voters, even the really stupid ones. They are a product of decades of GOP manipulation. But why can’t it be both them and a party that is totally clueless of what needs to change to reach people. The combination is exactly what you get, people who aren’t aware of reality and are just going towards the only party that is saying exactly what they want to hear (true or not).

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              that I can absolutely agree with. Its refreshing to hear someone put forth multiple reasons-- everyone wants to zero in on just 1, which is human nature, I guess.

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        Hey now, you cannot blame voters. Only rage into the void about Democrats, that’s the only thing that can help. I mean it clearly worked before, right!? /s

        Source: many Lemmy users.

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        the inflation is worse than that. trump droped rates from obamas 3 or 4 percent to zero before covid. I repeat before the covid emergency which is when you might drop them a percent or so.

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    Organize. Sabotage. General strike. Protest. Political action isn’t one day every four years.

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      Yup. Robert Reich posted something that ended with “Take a moment to breathe, then let the resistance begin.”

      And like, buddy, I’m sorry to say, if your resistance is only just beginning, then you are resisting the wrong thing and you will be ineffective. You should be fighting the entire empire, not just the unmasked pieces of it.

      The election is your chance to ask for your preferred enemy, but if you don’t get it, your job doesn’t change.

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      I wonder how many fellow lefties work for Xitler’s empire who are planning sabotage ops. As long as the payload wasn’t humans, watching a SpaceX rocket spectacularly fail would put a smile on my face, knowing that silent resistance is in motion

      Turn that bolt just a few degrees to the wrong direction

      Syntax errors? WOMM

      LFG, burn this mother fuckers scam empire to the ground

      We’ll make it to Mars on our terms, once we have a home to return to

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        I had a chance to buy a Tesla. Chose not to. Chose a Volvo instead. All heroes don’t wear capes.

        Hmm. I should buy a cape. Hey Google, remind me to buy a cape.

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      A general strike? Protests? Before this election I would have agreed with you. Now… half or more of the workers you’d need to pull that off voted for Trump.

      A general strike right now would basically just be leftists self-blacklisting themselves and doing the fascists work for them.

      If there’s anything this election has shown, it’s that there’s no unity on the left. Who are we organizing with since it’s clear that the cultists are a lost cause and the left can’t be relied on to show up when it matters most?

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    If you are from the US and you criticized people living under authoritarian regimes for not rioting hard enough, this is your time.

    You still have it easy. You won’t be taken into prison for standing with a piece of blank paper. You won’t be beaten with batons and taken into custody for reciting Constitution. Yet. Go ahead before it gets there, and may you never see a true authoritarian horror.

    Otherwise, all your words are not worth a dime.

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      The left couldn’t be bothered to vote but you think they’re going to riot?

      It would have maybe been mobilizing if the election was closer, or if the Dems at least won the popular vote by 5 million again… but this defeat was thorough enough to absolutely crush the morale of anyone who leans even a little bit left. Why should I waste my time and money supporting progressive policies when some people won’t even do the bare minimum to prevent Republicans from establishing a stranglehold on our government and institutions?

      If the accelerationists thought that sitting out and handing the election to Trump was going to mobilize the left I’m afraid they’re going to be disappointed. You say there’s still time, but is there? I used to think the “Trump is a fascist” rhetoric was hyperbole until J6 happened, now the proof is on video. Just engaging with these posts on a leftist site could be getting me onto a McCarthy-style blacklist that would prevent me from getting a job.

      There’s also a chance that the DNC still won’t get the message and we will do it all again in 2026, 2028, and so on. I guess beatings will continue until morale improves.

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        Riots always start with vocal minority and get more and more people engaged.

        America is not lost, and has plenty of people ready to take it on the streets. They just need a push. And having others around fighting for their future is the kind of push that can wake such people up. It’s way easier to join rather than start.

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    Might be a lot smaller than a lever, but if you are a republican don’t stand there empty handed. Grab your dick and start jerking that puppy. This is what you always wanted you dumb sick fuck.

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    Yep. I’m focused on looking after my community/friends who have targets on their back now.

    Other than that I look to republicans and say “alright, this is all you now. Better be perfect!” They shouted and screeched that their way was best. Their god is in the seat. Time to deliver a “great economy”

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          Issue polls show that everyone wildly approves of progressive policies but they hate progressive people. If you can solve that I’d vote for you for president.

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            Unfortunately I can’t. Im one fo the idiots who votes for more porgressive policies (who might win) vs less and could care less about what someone is like. Don’t get me wrong. obama was so effing amazeballs when it comes to what I would want a president to be if you are not concerned with how they run the country. Educated, well spoken, organic garden in the whitehouse with a michael stipe looking chef making beer and mead. I mean wow. But biden still blows me away with what he accomplished in an incredibly adversarial situation.

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    Except those people tied themselves to the track and started the train themselves… Completely voluntarily.

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      Whilst screaming make America great again as the trolley (s) keep going

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    You can yell at the train driver, you can make a team to stop the train, you can start building a new track, you can become a train driver yourself.

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    And this is why libs are made fun of for their feckless electoralism.

    Try organizing and building mutual aid networks instead of just sitting on your ass and watching.

    Maybe in 4 years you’ll be better prepared.