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    everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Windows we have known and loved up until Windows 11!

    it’s been smooth sailing until windows 11!

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      Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above

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        Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn’t have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn’t have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.

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        Windows 8 has some great improvements under the hood. I especially like the task manager changes. But people couldn’t take the start menu looking different, broke their little heads. Shouldn’t have even mattered, the correct way to use the start menu is hit the windows key, type the first 4 letters of what you want to launch, and hit enter

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          The thing is - we shouldn’t have had to do that. Maybe alternatively, but not primarily.

          Microsoft’s problem with Windows 8, was how they got a hair up their ass by being obsessed with mobile technology. Tablets and Phones specifically. That they decided in their ‘infinite wisdom’, to infect desktops with a theme and performance that honestly was more suited for mobile devices.

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            It was a stupid and unnecessary decision, yeah. That didn’t make it a bad OS though. It was a step up from windows 7 in almost every way other than a dumb aesthetic choice that people became hyper focused on.

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              I still miss the windows 7 glass look. That was peak desktop layout. Everything you need, nothing you don’t.

              And then they threw all of that good design away for a relatively mid mobile showing.

              That didn’t make it a bad OS though

              Interface design is an incredibly important part of software development. The users weren’t wrong when they shunned windows 8, microsoft was wrong for shitting on 30 years of interface development.

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          @the_crotch @Nyciferi do you want a bing search?
          This is exactly how you get a bing search on windows 11!

          No, computer, I dont want to see a bing page with a copilot analysis of all the things “note” could be, I wanted to open Notepad.

          Now we’re just swearing and scaring the other people in the office.

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            Not that you should have to, but web results can be disabled in start search.

            Winkey+R will open the no-frills run menu. As long as you know the exact exe or component name, you’re good:

            • notepad
            • calc
            • cmd
            • control
            • control userpasswords2
            • mstsc
            • ncpa.cpl
            • diskmgmt.msc
            • devmgmt.msc
            • shutdown (with /s, /r or /h switches)

            A few decent ones there.

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            I’m staying on Windows 10 until Microsoft somehow pulls it’s head out of it’s ass with Windows 11. It’ll take things like Steam completely dropping support of Windows 10, which will honestly happen one day because Valve slapped all of the faces of those when they promised that they would keep Steam running for old Windows down to XP. It’ll take them dropping support entirely for me to consider Windows 11 and even by that point, I’ll just go Linux fully.

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              Start dual booting now. get a 2nd drive and use your BIOS boot selector to keep everything seperated, windoze has a habit of nuking bootloaders and fucking up linux installs. make sure it has no idea whats going on.

              But the real secret to switching is don’t inconvenience yourself. use the right tool for the job and you’ll quickly find how bad of a tool windows has become.

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    Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable

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      To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.

      The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.

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        Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they’ve done to Windows in recent years.

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      Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.

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    Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It’s got worse since then

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    Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn’t happened yet or wasn’t the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn’t happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.

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      Windows was good until Vista … then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).

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      Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.

      But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.

      I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.

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        You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting

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      when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say

      the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization

      thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part

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      The day Microsoft bought it.

      Man I remembered some silly people who said “They aren’t going to make us have to use Microsoft accounts to still play!”.

      Boy, did Microsoft did in fact do that.

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      Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)

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      I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?

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    I kinda feel like people don’t really care, I mean the ones who care are here and they left these products behind, but we’re really a small fraction that barely counts, most just use these stuff, they just don’t overthink it.