Is some idiot trying to outlaw medical equipment in the States?
Mayor of New York
I thought he was trying to reinstate a pre-Covid ban and it has exceptions for wearing masks for medical reasons?
It’s not just about the disabled person, but anyone who lives with them needs to be wearing masks in public places because if they get sick it’s pretty hard to avoid spreading at home.
Medical exemptions have never been good enough.
I mean that whole idea is stupid. I’m still wearing masks on occasion. I don’t want to spread my mild flu to all the coworkers in the office, crowded train etc… I think we should do it like in some asian countries, where you’d just stop the flu spreading to some degree. Since you can’t stay at home all the time and that’s kind of contagious…
And the only benefit is that some dystopian total video surveillance keeps working…
Sounds like a good case for Work From Home more than anything
Thx. Seems I’m not too bad off, not following the news that closely… 😔
Victoria government in Australia
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
High risk individuals rely on others wearing their mask to protect them from infection. Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe. Hopefully they have the money to pay for deliveries for the season.
I can’t believe we are you still have to explain this in 2024. I have zero faith in humanity left, aside from Luigi ofc.
The reason they want you to not wear masks is, facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked. You can help protect the vulnerable and yourself from invasive tracking with this one simple trick.
That may be a side effect but it’s not the reason.
The reason is that they don’t want to be told what to do by the government. They want to use the government to tell other people what to do.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
This is about wielding power.
Government: “wear a mask to protect others”
Conservatives: “Nuh uh! You can’t tell me what to do! Hurr durr honk honk muh freedumbs!!”
Government: “wearing a mask is strictly prohibited”
Conservatives: “As you wish, my sire, whose boot shall I lick?”
facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked.
Afaik that’s illegal within the EU. Also, there’s more than just facial recognition. They can even learn the way you walk.
Yeah there is way more digital human recognition going on than we all like to acknowledge here in the states.
I must admit I’m super jealous of you Europeans. I’m very happy that you ladies and gents over there have a more formed and functional governance and your not yet in our predicament.
Watching a documentary of the first peoples of Ireland and wish I could be there instead of here right now.
The EU can be extremely bipolar unfortunately, see the chat control debate currently. I’m actually surprised with how many decent shit gets through sometimes, considering how most of the EU parliaments are mostly made up of conservatives or worse.
Just be thankful that your right wing is the equivalent of our left wing here in the states. We don’t even have a left wing, just right and batshit crazy. I do follow as much European news as I can and I do see we are exporting our specific brand of batshit. I hope it never gets its footing.
The reason I don’t want you to wear masks is I don’t like being surrounded by faces I can’t read.
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
While this is generally true, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that a properly-fitted respirator provides very good protection. Even more so if it’s an elastomeric with P100 filters (99.97% PFE with absurdly high fit factors).
But…
You’re absolutely right, if everyone would consistently wear at least an earloop respirator like a KF94 or KN95 — even if the quality is a bit sketchy and even if the fit is less than ideal — that would cut down on viral particulate emissions a great deal and task your own respirator with orders of magnitude less particulate to filter out.
I wear a P100 because I can’t trust my fellow Americans to wear so much as a scarf.
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
It’s more effective for others to wear them than for you to wear them. But it is still beneficial to wear a mask outside when you’re at risk of contagion, assuming you pair it with hand sanitizer and other preventative measures.
Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe.
At some point, telling people not to leave their homes if they want any kind of safety, but denying them access to medical equipment because it makes you feel unsafe only serves to deflect responsibility from the able-bodied to the vulnerable.
It would be like telling people in wheelchairs that ramps make me feel clumsy so you just shouldn’t leave your house if you want full mobility.
Exactly. I find it strange that someone who’s immune system is compromised to the point where a ‘common cold’ can kill them has been just hanging out in public and it’s only a problem now. Masks weren’t invented in 2020. Op is likely farming Internet points.
I’ve had a compromised immune system before. Going out in public and trusting a mask to protect me would be like wearing safety goggles when you jump into a wood chipper.
An N95 mask protects the wearer too.
Sometimes going out in public is necessary, such as to the doctor, or to get food if there’s not someone to help with that. And sometimes it requires passing through other public spaces, such as public transportation. A person can have no illusions about the degree to which masks help, but still depend on them because what else is there?
As the spouse and caregiver of a compromised person, I wear a KN95 anytime I go into a store or other indoor public space, to try to avoid catching and bringing home anything that might land him in the hospital again.
Anti-maskers are like 6 year olds throwing a tantrum because you’re making them eat broccoli.
Those who oppose it for themselves during a pandemic are just children refusing to do their part to help others.
Those who oppose it for others are sex perverts. They oppose masks solely because they want to be able to see the faces of random people in the street so they can commit them to memory and later masturbate to them. Really they belong on the sex offender registry.
They know, they don’t care.
American individualist propaganda has a load of people believing they’re free to do whatever the fuck they like, and fuck anyone who tries to stop them.
Selflessness is a rejected concept to them, they will never productively participate in a community of people.
Individualism for me, fashion police for you!
if only there was some sort of word for a political movement that weaponized the trappings of individual liberties in the name of killing marginalized people. i do nazi myself thinking of one
damn you just made some gears spin in my head
I think capitalism promotes “individualism” because the alternative is selflessness which means more money spent for the greater good of society
Seems like you could get this shit struck down by challenging it in court based on the ADA
not with republican filled courts lol
lets turn this around on them. they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
they’re trying to cancel Halloween! what’s next, Christmas?!
they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
I’m more than confident that the NYPD will make an exception for something that’s lucrative to Big Business. The issue is that medical masks outside of one day in October aren’t highly profitable, while CCTV cameras on every corner and AI facial recognition running across a thousand enormous data centers absolutely is.
Can’t justify the enormous state investment in spying if these high profile assassinations demonstrate the holes in the system. So we just make masks illegal (except on the one day when it makes businesses money) and tell people with weak immune systems to eat shit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the kind of people to say that disabled people are a burden to society
Disabled people were some of the first German gas chamber victims.
As a disabled person you’re spot on.
It’s the kind of people saying that disabled people should just “get on with their life” and stop “making everything about their disability”.
Like yeah sure Bradley, I would do that, if I could get on with my life because c*nts like you didn’t deny every attempt at making the world accessible. Maybe if people like you didn’t complain every time a cent was spent on an accessibility fund or on medical research I would actually be able to be getting on with my life.
But no, since we’re treated like shit I have to make “everything about my disability” just for my basic survival. Because if I don’t I’ll just be left in a ditch to starve.
I fear by “get on with life” they might just mean “end your life”.
That’s what it feels like to me.
It’s something like “Live as if you weren’t disabled because you making your disability visible bothers me. And if you’re unable to do that, well either stay in an institution where you belong or if you can’t afford that you should just die”
Who is banning masks?!?
Nassau County in NY state passed a law this summer https://www.nyclu.org/press-release/nassau-county-mask-ban-signed-into-law YES, there are exceptions for health, religious or cultural reasons BUT they’ve also used it as probable cause to search someone https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nassau-county-police-issue-first-face-mask-ban-violation/5741363/ (it doesn’t matter that he was found with a knife. My son wears a mask because he thinks his nose is ugly)
I know someone who wears one because a lifetime of depression caused them not to take care of their teeth, and so they don’t want to be judged even more poorly for that.
I haven’t seen his nose, but I bet it’s bold and beautiful. I wish him luck on his mental health journey!
In the UK we have the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 section 60aa where the police are able to make anyone within an area remove a mask when a there is a large crowd and a senior cop decides to fill in the paperaorj. There has been a recent increase in its usage in the last 4-ish years.
Tell me about it…if you have certain less obvious disabilities, you are 100% screwed, even in a liberal society.
And sick people should wear them too when they go into stores. But where is this actually a topic anyway? I’ve not heard much of anything regarding masks since the pandemic.
What do you mean, “since”? COVID is still running freaking riot. We just stopped acknowledging it.
The pandemic is still over. Covid became endemic and there’s both vaccinations and medications for it now, while the latest strains are also much less problematic than the first ones. People since then have stopped wearing masks. I may see like one person a year with a mask.
Endemic is not an improvement on the situation. It’s just an acknowledgement that we were inadequate to deal with it when it was reasonably possible, and are giving up now. I don’t leave the house without a P100, because my species appears to be insane.
who is banning masks?
Likely Trump when bird flu or mpox goes pandemic.
did he say that though?
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that doesn’t bode well for vaccines, but we will see what that means for masks.
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Love to the poster, I don’t agree with these views, but this argument would fall completely flat because they think disabled people should just die if they’re “too weak”. If you can just don’t go to these places because they’re run by delusional people at best and Nazis at worst.
When my (then) 4 yo was undergoing chemo I had a goto line I used often when people would comment on my mask:
You’re right. I should let my kid who has no immune system because he’s on chemo for cancer treatment just die then, right?
Honestly, if you’re still masking and get flak, just say the above anyhow. You have my permission.
What?? Why, where and how are masks being banned? Like, face masks?
Fantastic meme, OP.
If you’re being unironic, thanks ☺️.
If you’re being ironic because this is more a political thing than a meme, microblogmemes is meant to be a whitepeopletwitter alternative that doesn’t divide based on race.
Also the original (and more useful) definition is “a gene, but for ideas”. This is an idea that more people should consider, so it qualifies anyways.
Cultural memes and internet memes are not the same thing. This is neither.
Literally any shared idea is a meme.
We have an actual original definition to refer to. It’s Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene, and it’s very comparable to general “message” in information theory. “Internet memes” fit into his definition exactly.
If everything is a meme then nothing is a meme.
Internet meme means a picture that is funny, ironic or relateable. This is none of those. This is a screenshot of an political opinion.
You’re missing the point. Meme isn’t something you gatekeep. It’s simply a term for any arbitrary amount of idea. Everything is a meme.
Your argument is like saying “nothing has mass if you call everything mass”.
Whitepeopletwitter isn’t for political opinions either. The content is supposed to be entertaining.
Whitepeopletwitter is in practice atleast 50% political opinions.
I don’t know why you care so much about this? Does disability rights bother you?
I’m trying to curate my feed so that it wouldn’t be 100% politics and people like you are making it quite difficult posting that even on meme communities.
Then unsubscribe from this community. Or block me?
Simple. No need to make 20 comments on this post and waste everyone’s time. I’m not going to change my posting habits just for you when it looks like hundreds of people upvoted the post. So just block me :)
Or you could just post things to their appropriate communities. Simple.
what about schizo people like me who wish to hide their identity so as to not be clobbered by AI facial recognition software?
You’re one of the reasons for the ban.
No kidding. While on the surface the bans are about medical masks, I’m sure there’s a surveillance motive as well.
Are these “people banning masks” in the room with you right now?
In all seriousness, I wear masks when I go anywhere where there is high traffic and I’ve never even so much as gotten an angry gaze from anyone. I don’t think anyone would enforce such laws or initiatives.
Might vary from locale to locale
some folks on here are very paranoid and might suffer from severe anxiety disorder. They were saying how its draconian for your boss to ask for a doctors note and to fire you if you missed work.
