any sort of power, they have it ALL now, because not enough Democrats figured it was important enough to simply cast a vote in Novembers election. more arab and latino americans voted for donald trump than have ever voted for any republican candidate before in american history. leftists told anyone that would listen they weren’t going to vote for “genocide joe” while marching on every major american city chanting “from the river to the sea”, while flooding social media with anti israel and anti democratic party messaging, the result of which was democratic youth vote was the lowest it’s ever been in american history, while republican youth vote was the highest it’s ever been. with everything on the line democratic youth couldn’t find it within themselves to defend the republic, by doing the lowest effort simplest action by casting a ballot in a safe, free, and fair election. donald trump won his second term as president by ~2.3% of the vote.
I voted for Harris in nov. But you are blaming the people with the least amount of power.
Democrats could have… you know… appealed to their voters instead of fund and arm a genocide, fund the police more than has ever been done, and ran on racist border fascism. They didn’t appeal to their voters and their voters didn’t show. Harris, Biden and all the people advising them should be the ones we direct our anger at not the voters who didn’t vote for something they weren’t inspired by.
I just want to clarify that Arab and Latino Americans voting for Trump is marginal and would be insignificant if white voters weren’t in the bag for fascism already.
White women are the only marginalized group that fuck with Republicans in numbers.
Marginalized groups can be more or less marginalized than others. That does not make them powerful relative to the rich-ass white men that run the world through financial influence alone.
Ya’ll motherfuckers act like just cause women can vote now, sexism is “solved.”
Women who are 50% of the US population had the opportunity to vote for the first black woman president, protect their reproductive rights and instead 53% of the women who did turn up voted for the pussy grabbing rapist.
Maybe you should deal with the traitors in your own house.
Interestingly the gEnOcIdE posts are way fewer nowadays.
Don’t get me wrong, I think bibi is a war criminal, but there were absolutely very very few debates or discussions, almost only astroturfing hatespeek IMO, basically shut up or you are a “genocider”, which doesn’t advance anything sane, again IMO.
Yes, because you were all voting for politicians who were complicit in that genocide. Then the election happened, and the quasi-ceasefire (really, relocation of hostilities to the West Bank, until they almost inevitably resume in Gaza again) happened. And you’re all still clinging to the “it was a spoiler designed to cost Dems the election” and yet you’re still completely failing to ask the absolutely fundamental question of why the Democrat politicians would rather give up an election than give up being complicit in genocide.
The sheer fact that you write “genocide” in the “I’m an idiot” up-and-down caps, by the way. It meets the legal definition of genocide. It means the intent of laws authored against genocide. It meets the structural characteristics of past genocides. You have to be a truly sick person to trivialize it like that. It’s really striking how much trivializing the genocide like that goes hand-in-hand with blaming its critics for the Democrat’s loss - it’s always the same people doing both. Are we not living in the same planet, where genocide is literally the worst crime imaginable, besides causing the extinction of the entire human race or all life of Earth? Does a politician’s complicity in genocide not completely discredit everything they say or do as a facade to gain power and wealth? Does it not reveal an absolute deception that’s fundamental to our entire social system? Be honest, have you even thought about those questions?
You guys really want to shift the agenda to something else, but I’m going to describe this exactly as it is. This system is fucked and completely captive, Ds and Rs both. Whoever you think is to blame - at the end of the day, it’s not even relevant, because we need complete systemic change. The fact that both parties were near-unanimously complicit in a genocide and the genocidal incitement mythology around it should have been an absolute clarion call to the public for absolute rejection of the people in power. But instead you’re all still dicking around playing partisan politics, downplaying that genocide, and trying to relocate the blame for the crumbling society to the general public. The problem here is that we live in a deeply fascist, totalitarian system, at the heart of a global military empire. The mass murder our politicians - across the aisle - commit abroad is a reflection of the inherent immorality and exploitation inherent in this system. Now they’ve put the “bad cops” back in power after the “good cops” absolutely threw the election, and guess what, it’s the “we’re tightening our belts, abolishing a bunch of civil rights, and making this even more of a police state” routine again. Not just confined to the last…two weeks under Trump’s rule, but oh-so-coincidentally, the same totalitarian police state shit that was already completely rearing its head under George W. Bush and Obama. There was not some sudden shift to fascism in the last two weeks. We’ve been under it. They’ve been hammering it in bit by bit our entire lives. This is an objective truth - between the NSA mass surveillance, the PATRIOT Act, FISA surveillance, CIA black sites, targeted assassinations of U.S. citizens, everything. None of this is new. So revise your explanation of this society, because it’s not correct.
any sort of power, they have it ALL now, because not enough Democrats figured it was important enough to simply cast a vote in Novembers election. more arab and latino americans voted for donald trump than have ever voted for any republican candidate before in american history. leftists told anyone that would listen they weren’t going to vote for “genocide joe” while marching on every major american city chanting “from the river to the sea”, while flooding social media with anti israel and anti democratic party messaging, the result of which was democratic youth vote was the lowest it’s ever been in american history, while republican youth vote was the highest it’s ever been. with everything on the line democratic youth couldn’t find it within themselves to defend the republic, by doing the lowest effort simplest action by casting a ballot in a safe, free, and fair election. donald trump won his second term as president by ~2.3% of the vote.
Blaming the voters is most of the reason you’re in the position you’re in, you do understand that, right?
I voted for Harris in nov. But you are blaming the people with the least amount of power.
Democrats could have… you know… appealed to their voters instead of fund and arm a genocide, fund the police more than has ever been done, and ran on racist border fascism. They didn’t appeal to their voters and their voters didn’t show. Harris, Biden and all the people advising them should be the ones we direct our anger at not the voters who didn’t vote for something they weren’t inspired by.
Fuck the genocide. We have a real crisis at home now because people put another country ahead of ours.
Again, I agree as I voted for Harris. But the real villains are the people with actual power who made consequential decisions that fucked us all.
I agree with you on that. They rolled right over before it was even bedtime on election night.
So you are saying that you will happily sacrifice minorities abroad so long as you can get your way?
Aside from what Byremeister said (which was spot on) when the choice is save minorities at home, I will always vote yes.
I just want to clarify that Arab and Latino Americans voting for Trump is marginal and would be insignificant if white voters weren’t in the bag for fascism already.
White women are the only marginalized group that fuck with Republicans in numbers.
A hearty lmao at the idea that white women are marginalized.
They don’t have control over their bodies. That’s fucking marginalized.
They are.
Marginalized groups can be more or less marginalized than others. That does not make them powerful relative to the rich-ass white men that run the world through financial influence alone.
Ya’ll motherfuckers act like just cause women can vote now, sexism is “solved.”
Do not engage the incel
Women who are 50% of the US population had the opportunity to vote for the first black woman president, protect their reproductive rights and instead 53% of the women who did turn up voted for the pussy grabbing rapist.
Maybe you should deal with the traitors in your own house.
Because a marginalized group has never been misled to accept and excuse abuse before. What a fuckin’ take.
Not sure what you mean by my “own house.” American white women are a demographic I’m displaced from in a number of ways.
Whatever dude. People having to pretend like they give a fuck what Karen has to say is half the reason we are in this mess.
They are powerful relative to “rich white ass-men” because they hold their cocks. Wake up.
If they were too insignificant to listen to, they’re too insignificant to blame.
Oh yeah I meant more that giving them any sort of power inevitably leads to this
Interestingly the gEnOcIdE posts are way fewer nowadays.
Don’t get me wrong, I think bibi is a war criminal, but there were absolutely very very few debates or discussions, almost only astroturfing hatespeek IMO, basically shut up or you are a “genocider”, which doesn’t advance anything sane, again IMO.
Yes, because you were all voting for politicians who were complicit in that genocide. Then the election happened, and the quasi-ceasefire (really, relocation of hostilities to the West Bank, until they almost inevitably resume in Gaza again) happened. And you’re all still clinging to the “it was a spoiler designed to cost Dems the election” and yet you’re still completely failing to ask the absolutely fundamental question of why the Democrat politicians would rather give up an election than give up being complicit in genocide.
The sheer fact that you write “genocide” in the “I’m an idiot” up-and-down caps, by the way. It meets the legal definition of genocide. It means the intent of laws authored against genocide. It meets the structural characteristics of past genocides. You have to be a truly sick person to trivialize it like that. It’s really striking how much trivializing the genocide like that goes hand-in-hand with blaming its critics for the Democrat’s loss - it’s always the same people doing both. Are we not living in the same planet, where genocide is literally the worst crime imaginable, besides causing the extinction of the entire human race or all life of Earth? Does a politician’s complicity in genocide not completely discredit everything they say or do as a facade to gain power and wealth? Does it not reveal an absolute deception that’s fundamental to our entire social system? Be honest, have you even thought about those questions?
You guys really want to shift the agenda to something else, but I’m going to describe this exactly as it is. This system is fucked and completely captive, Ds and Rs both. Whoever you think is to blame - at the end of the day, it’s not even relevant, because we need complete systemic change. The fact that both parties were near-unanimously complicit in a genocide and the genocidal incitement mythology around it should have been an absolute clarion call to the public for absolute rejection of the people in power. But instead you’re all still dicking around playing partisan politics, downplaying that genocide, and trying to relocate the blame for the crumbling society to the general public. The problem here is that we live in a deeply fascist, totalitarian system, at the heart of a global military empire. The mass murder our politicians - across the aisle - commit abroad is a reflection of the inherent immorality and exploitation inherent in this system. Now they’ve put the “bad cops” back in power after the “good cops” absolutely threw the election, and guess what, it’s the “we’re tightening our belts, abolishing a bunch of civil rights, and making this even more of a police state” routine again. Not just confined to the last…two weeks under Trump’s rule, but oh-so-coincidentally, the same totalitarian police state shit that was already completely rearing its head under George W. Bush and Obama. There was not some sudden shift to fascism in the last two weeks. We’ve been under it. They’ve been hammering it in bit by bit our entire lives. This is an objective truth - between the NSA mass surveillance, the PATRIOT Act, FISA surveillance, CIA black sites, targeted assassinations of U.S. citizens, everything. None of this is new. So revise your explanation of this society, because it’s not correct.
I’m not american.
And if I have to spell it out for you, the gEnOcIdErs were astroturfers screaming and blocking any sane discussion IMO.
I wrote bibi is a war criminal, if that is not enough for you then what can I say.
Which crimes do you suspect him of? Let’s see if you can say genocide.
Of course it’s genocide. What in the world did you think I thought it was?
You’re fighting the wrong battle here.
I thought you were calling him a war criminal to avoid using the word genocide.
Genocide denial can and does happen on lemmy.
Whatever.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire
Try knowing just a small fucking fraction of a topic before you have opinions on things.
That said, Republican collusion with people like Bibi to extend conflict as a weapon against Democratic presidents is an old play for them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair
So much anger.
Can you imagine being angry about genocide?