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    5 days ago

    Incognito was never about privacy. It’s about hiding your seach history from your parents or partner or whatever

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      4 days ago

      and i’m pretty sure the browsers have been quite explicit about this for a long time now, but of course no one bothers to read “This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google.”

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        It’s as far as I remember literally always said it’s basically just turning off local history, and not for true privacy. The wording has changed over the years and frankly only become more explicated and clear about that fact.

        This is a rare case of google NOT being the problem here. People are misusing a tool that has always been honest about itself.

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    Wait… people actually think that incognito means that they don’t record your searches??

    I thought everybody knew that all incognito does is preventing your searches from showing up in your search history.

    Did anyone actually think that these big tech companies would willingly give you an option to keep your searches private from them?

    Hello???

    Always assume that everything you do online is being recorded and seen by someone. Unless you’re a master computer wiz or whatever the fuck they call it these days, ALWAYS ASSUME YOUR ACTIVITY ONLINE IS PUBLIC.

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      This is the consequence of wrapping everything in glossy plastics and dumbed down UI for decades. People don’t want to learn, and even if they do it’s all hidden away behind blobs and bloats.

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    Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

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    Incognito mode was always just to hide your local browser history. Think Google would NOT track you?

    Do you have Google maps? They know where you are at all times.

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      User visits Google (logged in)

      User visits Google, without cookies, but from the same IP, same user agent, same resolution, same OS, same enabled plugins, same browser version number, same fingerprint (based on al the previous information).

      Google, who could this possibly be???

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      Do you have Google maps? ANY UNMODIFIED GOOGLE CODE OR ANDROID PHONE, TABLET OR CHROMEBOOK IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER?

      Then they know where you are at all times. I bet the Pixel users get gold stars. Oneplus have little pluses and custom rom users have 👀.

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    I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.

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      Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.

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      4 days ago

      The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.

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      To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.

      This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.

      The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc

      Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.

      The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.

      Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.

      Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.

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    Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.

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    Incognito/Private Browsing came about when people were sharing computers more often. It doesn’t save history and cookies and whatnot on your device. It’s to prevent the next user from getting in to your bank account.

    Google and whoever else will still know your IP and can use that to cross-reference whatever other data they have on you.

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      Cmon if you use tor to search about cookie recipes then you are ill, Schizo

      Healthy people use tor to hire hitman on their boss after boss fired them, or a hacker to doxx the jerk that downvoted them

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    I don’t care or think they didn’t track that, they don’t ruin my algorithm with those searches which is all I really care about.

    I basically just use it to look up whatever new crazy person my whack job mother was sending me some antivax propaganda from to confirm they’re the type of quack I assume them to be.

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    The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.

    Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.

    Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy

    https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9845881?hl=en-GB

    The only thing that shocks me is that no one ever reads it

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    hey before they do that, can i look through their files on me? theres some porn i havent been able to refind anywhere

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    You’ve gone Incognito. Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google. Downloads, bookmarks and reading list items will be saved.

    - Google Chrome

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          Yeah, one would have hoped that’d be the case - but apparently not.

          I just remembered reading this a while back (start of last year, it seems?), and it honestly felt like a tacit admission of wrong-doing - so they’re likely going to be facing an uphill battle, or at least are expecting one.

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          Even before that change it’s explicit about it… The change literally did not change any part of the text that tells you who can and are going to track you. They basically went from “this isn’t real privacy” to screaming at your face cause apparently people can’t read and are idiots.

          This is a case of users misusing a tool and not reading. At best you can argue that google should have assumed it’s users were stupid beyond measure from the start and had a tos so verbose that only someone missing a brain could misunderstand the point of the tool.

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        Man, even then it was clear what it was doing, are they supposed to list every single website you visit that might track you?