My friend is sole IT guy for two production lines, managing security, multiple production buildings, redundancy, sensor lifetimes, emergency concepts etc, he has one colleague managing the human IT part
Like he manages all the machines and the other one all MS-Shit
It is always very interesting listening to his stories about managing multiple production lines where it costs so much if the machine is not running for some time
It is about producing chocolate, lol
I love the redundancy on tech level, but not on the human level. I can only imagine the manager’s dashboard with risks and mitigating actions.
I contract at a place that has lost well over a million in the last 11 months in downtime that’s specifically for low voltage/comms failures. They have been looking for an electrician for 11 months and 49-65k USD is the salary range.
They could have paid triple that and saved money AND got the deliverables for the year. They won’t now.
Haha, yes
They are so fucked, if some mad lad is road raging and prevents my friend reaching his workplace
Jurassic Park is a tale of dangers of not investing enough on IT
They are UNIX systems, they don’t need an entire team to be managed once installed and running.
I’m only half joking. It’s not UNIX but I’ve been working with “legacy” systems like IBM i mainframes, and those things don’t need much to run. Sure, you have to update the system and the software once every few months, manage backups, role switches, etc., but it can mostly be done by a few people. But yeah, systems like this were (are) insanely expensive so most of his budget probably went there.
When I was young I thought “who needs 3 computers at once ?”
Now I get it.
Hihi, little you entering a atom power plant control center would have been funny 😁
In my country, even trash burning systems have control centres where 5 people work on about 50 screens 😄
(It is a garbage burning facility which takes out all the things still usable (like metals) after the burning process, and it gives heat energy to the houses around, and it captures the produced CO2 prior it enters the atmosphere, but probably creating “green fuel" out of it 😌. non the less, I am quite proud about this facility, even if recycling plastics would be even better, but being realistically, there are only two plastics which are good recycleable (PET and PE-HD) and those get collected selectively in my country anyway.
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Hahah, silly ADHS me
Linux users. So we can troubleshoot how we borked one machine on one of the other two that we haven’t yet borked.
Ahhh Virtual Machines 🥰
One to break, one to fix, one to use.
Newman had multiple monitors before it was cool.
Was it multiple monitors or multiple systems? Can’t see if there’s another keyboard and mouse there in front of the one behind him. Though I suppose it was all supposed to be mainframe terminals (running Linux in the movie, which I’m not sure had a mainframe version, as I understand, it started as a Unix for desktops, where Unix was the mainframe OS).
Edit: the Linux thing was my own bad memory, Lex recognizes Unix, which is weird because it was an experimental unix filesystem browser UI and most kids wouldn’t have access to machines that run any kind of unix, so it wouldn’t have been a “I played with some computers in my garage” kind of thing. Though being Hammond’s grandkids, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that she did have access to a mainframe either through Hammond’s companies or from access to universities and the like.
That’s exactly the point. They did spare expenses, on a lot of things.
John Hammond Jurassic Park book spoilers
John Hammond is clearly portrayed as a villain in the book. They lightened him up in the movie.
because it’s impossible for richard attenborough to be a villain
Also Spielberg saw himself in the character.
Oh I bet he did
He came to prominence playing a psychopathic gangster
Did he have grandpa white hair and beard then?
The movie really dumbed Hammond down to “overly optimistic money guy with a vision”. Which was a bit distasteful if you’ve read the books. Just a bit.
Maybe. I really preferred the movie version. Sometimes I prefer to like characters. I enjoyed the story more.
I liked movie Hammond too, don’t get me wrong. It’s just a completely different story because of the character shift.
Supposedly, that is the whole deal with the Chilean Sea Bass that he gloats about. Spared no expense. Apparently that fish sounds fancy, but is actually super cheap. The whole park needed to have the shine of a top-of-the-line facility, but in the end, Ingen and Hammond had no idea what they were really cooking up.
The raptors for instance, I always got the feeling that paddock was kind of small and rapidly constructed. Those things had killed multiple people in the past, and the park’s response was cram them into a jail cell. You’d think an intelligent, dangerous animal, that was not part of the tour or experience would be euthanized, rather than risk the whole park…but here is Ingen not dealing with the problem, and instead, actively making more raptors.
They just needed Chris Pratt, Raptor Whisperer and they would have been fine.
The book was a million times better than the movie. It was the first time I had read a novel that was turned into a movie and then saw the movie after reading the novel.
14-year-old me had never been so disappointed. And it taught me to never ever read the book before the movie.
For me, it was really mostly the story changes they made so the movie could be rated PG instead of R. They also made some changes to some of the characters and the dialogue which made it come off a lot more cheesy than the book. Although, I will say, gender swapping the kids was a good move. I liked that it was the girl who was the UNIX whiz. In 1993, that felt like an especially fresh take.
Also, not generally portrayed as a “nerd”-type.
I saw once that the reason Kristen Stewart was so hated in the Twilight movies is because all the young women who grew up reading the books imagined themselves as Bella. They were never going to like whichever actress was cast into the role since they would no longer be able to project their own likeness onto the protagonist.
I thought she played Bella perfectly:
A blank canvas. Nothing wrong with portraying the character accurately. I mean, I’m not sure all the mouth-breathing was necessary. Literally the only thing I remember about her, character-wise.
My wife always gets excited when a book she loves is being adapted (right now Verity and project hail Mary) but I learned from many disappointments to not get excited. I still watch most of them but I don’t expect too much
Film is a different medium. You can’t have the same exact story in both a movie and a book.
I just think of it as someone else telling the story.
After seeing the trailer for project, Hail Mary, it seems like they’re gonna stick pretty close to the book. Like they did with the Martian.
He was evil in the books and was horrible to Nedrey
Holy shit, this thread made me realize Hammond invited the scientists and grandkids to the island with a hurricane inbound. Not like those things just pop up like tornadoes. You know it’s coming as much as a week in advance.
Yep, but he needed to push through legal and investor complaints, so rush rush rush, damn the risk. They’re “captains of industry”, they couldn’t possibly fail!
He is the only one on the island but there are more developers. Hammond even says to “call his team In Cambridge”.
If I was the only onsite Devops and my professional support lived in Cambridge with an 8 hour time difference, I’d have a hard time not selling corporate secrets to the highest bidder.
I dont remember the movie well but I thought everyone left the island and this was the minimum team left behind.
Yes, Nedry owned his IT company, but Hammond was withholding Nedry’s final paycheck until debugging was done. Which had already gone over budget due to feature creep, so Nedry was doing it himself because he didn’t have money to pay his people because Hammond wouldn’t give him the money they agreed on. Hence why Nedry was looking to make some side money, he’s literally doing all that debugging and final system fixes for free on the promise that he won’t be screwed again by Hammond. IIRC anyway, its been like 30 years since I read the book… And a lot of my perspective changed as I got older and I got more experience in the industry. As a kid, I thought you took the job you should do the job, but as an adult I understand a lot better the dynamics of the situation and while I still think if you took the job you should do the job, I completely understand the feeling of getting Fucked by someone who would rather throw money at lawyers than just pay what they agreed on.
I have been in his position, and while I didn’t betray the client and get killed, I really understand his mindset and “Fuck-it” attitude. Hammond is wealthy and using his position and power to spare as much expense as possible and step on as many contractors as possible. Kind of like an Orange Cheeto I know of. I had a company I work for that had to file bankruptcy because a half-billion dollar a year company hired us then charged back their initial payment and refused to issue final payment unless we did a ton of extra work, and when we did that, they just said “thanks” and vanished. Apparently American Express lets you contest a payment 6-12 months after it was issued and their stance is if you want your money you should sue.
Wow that missing back story really explains quite a bit. It wasn’t just greed it was revenge and getting what’s owed.
“I didn’t betray the client and get killed”
Betrayed the client and lived? /s
Yes, actually, I betrayed the client by preparing lots of paperwork and examples of the system working so when they went to court they would actually have to defend their position.
It didn’t help me not get laid off though because losing 4 months of payroll in a chargeback is pretty brutal for a company’s books.
And that company never came back from it. A subdivision of the company, survived, but the company lost its building, and most of its employees during the bankruptcy and restructuring. And it happened right before Christmas, so the entire company got laid off for the holidays, it was a lot of fun /s. Fuck predatory self-help companies…
Yes, they were on a reduced crew because of a storm.
I was just thinking about this yesterday - and how it seems like one of the very few flaws with the film was how unclear they made this. Nearly everyone misunderstands this. It would have really helped if there’d been a couple more lines on it, or shots of staff clearing out, etc. Instead it seemed like there were about 10 people at the whole park.
I’ve always said the real moral of Jurrasic Park was “don’t fuck with IT”
In the book it was a huge amount of scope creep, Hammond refusing to pay for it and then acting all entitled.
Just like in the real world.
Ah, a rubber duck debugging adherent. At least they paid good money for a professional.
That’s a stress ball
What is the rubber duck used for? Is it like the seashells in Demolition Man?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
tldr; basically you explain your buggy code to the duck, and when you explain it, you suddenly realize what the issue is.
any inanimate or even imaginary object works, but rubber duck is the classic option.
I find my dog works well too, she’s a great listener.
goodbest debuggerBest little bugger
I call it the Labrador method.
Have you ever been stuck on a problem (school, work, personal, whatever) and as soon as you go to ask someone for help, you start explaining the problem and figure it out? You basically use the duck for that - explain the problem out loud to “someone else” and sometimes you’ll see what you were missing.
lol
Isn’t that Mona Wilder?
Samuel L was also an IT guy, right? But yes, an expense was spared
Nedry was the systems engineer, Arnold was the operations admin. One was a construction worker, the other was the architect. Neither can truly do the other’s job, but are aware of how they do it.
Newman.
He also had Samuel L Jackson.
Arnold was an engineer, though. He was competent in using the system and not totally lost when poking around the code, but he’s no computer scientist. Basically, he was a power user / sysadmin rather than a developer.
Stares motherfuckerly at you…
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Yay!!!
I understand your opinion of sysadmins but they still fit the definition of an IT guy
I’m pretty sure Nedry was the engineer. Arnold was systems administrator / operator. Neither were computer scientists.
Nedry was literally a computer scientist and systems designer / programmer from Cambridge. Arnold was a theme park engineer (designing rides and control systems; some programming involved but a whole different paradigm than developing large systems).
Source: Have read the novel 50+ times.
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Yeah, he was always ready to lend a hand.
Pretty farken standard. IT isn’t considered important unless they want their personal laptop de-porned
