I bet that rich dumb ass would love this comparison.

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    It’s amazing that it’s been 12 years since Elon had this image deleted from the internet:

    Image of Elon being a douche

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        Yeah people are desperate to believe ‘Edison evil, Tesla jesus’ it’s so weird. I get that it was like a cool fact online twenty years ago but there have been so many actual historical documentaries showing how complex and interesting the real story was.

        Truth is neither of them invented anything from scratch, - AC generators, motors (useless), transformers, and lights were in use before Tesla even began his big invention. He was a name in a long list of people who worked together understanding the newly emerging field of electronics - if Westinghouse or Barrington had made outrageous claims to allure conspiracy theories then they might have got the Tesla treatment by thy internet instead and we’d only hear of Tesla in the science museum while they’d be regarded at saintly heros of science.

        I like Tesla but there are so many interesting stories

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          electrocuting an elephant to death, and for no better reason than tabloid advertising, kind of stands out in the historical record

          that’s not to say Edison was PURE EVIL, just that I always remember the elephant alongside the more humanizing factoids. [Once, he asked a math student to find the volume of a lightbulb. The student started doing all kinds of caliper measurements and geometry calculations. Edison just filled the bulb with sand and tipped it out into a measuring cup]

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            Except in realityit seems he was against the elephant being killed but said electrocution would be more humane than the hanging which had happened to ‘murderous mary’, his opinion being something the aspca also supported.

            The assholes in this story are the themepark owners that upon being unable to sell Topsy decided to kill her as a spectacle to gain publicity, A previous attempt elsewhere to electrocute an elephant had failed so they also used other measures. They poisoned her. Electrocuted her and strangled her with a steam powered winch.

            They did use locally supplied power from the Edson Co but this was because it was a decade after war of the currents and Edison was the main supplier of AC to NYC, they certainly weren’t trying to promote its danger. Plus he no longer owned that company, he’d sold to GE and it still used his name.

            The Edison film company did film it but again no evidence the man himself was involved, they filmed short clips of specticals and news events which could be viewed in a slot machine. It’s upsetting but people were a lot less caring about animals back then, it wasn’t especially shocking that this happened or was recorded.

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          if Westinghouse or Barrington had made outrageous claims to allure conspiracy theories then they might have got the Tesla treatment by thy internet instead and we’d only hear of Tesla in the science museum

          Hey now, you get to hear about Westinghouse plenty in the railroad museums. A variation of the Westinghouse brake design is still in use on modern trains to this day

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    It’s incredible. Musk held all the aces, Tesla, SpaceX, Crypto (debatable). He was viewed as a pioneer, as a philanthropist. But it seems social media fucks up every one of us. Image Nixon, it would have been immensely insightful if we had social media back then EDIT: Nixon would have been a smart Trump, fuck that timeline

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      It really is incredible, the potential place in history he pissed away. But I guess you can’t end up a multi billionaire if you’re the type of person that knows when it’s OK to stop.

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      Yeah, there were a few people who knew better that were telling everyone, but no one listened and everyone in the world was lining up to kiss his ass. Putting him in various popular movies and shows as the greatest luminary of our time. While people who knew him were writing credible reports that he is just a very lucky douche who is also a giant megalomanic.

      Can’t imagine being his first wife and having her experiences and sharing those experiences and the world seeming to gaslight her that he’s actually a brilliant flawless man.

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      Nixon Foundation has been posting edits of him on their Youtube channel, tons of pro-Nixon comments

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    Ironic that the company is named Tesla.

    Nikola is probably rolling in his grave. May that glorious man rest in peace.

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      He was amazing at math and physics, but he was a grade A douchebag.

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          He was, but not due to his OCD. He just straight up hated women. A bit more so than every other man at the time. His autobiography gives his opinion. He hated women, especially if they wore pearls. Which may have been his mental illness flavoring the hate. He also fell in love with a pidgeon. Can’t really blame the fella. Pidgeons are very social animals. Best bird to have as a pet.

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      Nicola is spinning so hard in his grave, you can hook it up to a dynamo and supply electricity to a whole town.

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      I wonder if the original founders named it in honour of Tesla and then elon had to come in and ruin it all

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        And just like Edison, Elon swooped in and bought up all their IP and took all the credit for their inventions/work.

        Edison did it with Nikolas ideas when he was working for him, and now Elon did it with something that was named to honor the man.

        Tesla gets shafted yet again.

        I can’t help but wonder what he could have accomplished if someone, literally anyone had continued to fund him, and help him continue his efforts for the remainder of his natural life. Maybe we would be flying around in wirelessly powered personal vehicles. Who knows? But the ideas he had led to some of the most significant advances in technology for years. Pretty much our entire modern life is thanks to Tesla’s inventions, either directly or indirectly.

        Even something as simple as AC electricity delivery… What a genius. Easily on the top of my list of best inventors.

        His personal life and some of his opinions there may have been a bit problematic, but it would be difficult to deny that he was a brilliant inventor.

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    Apparently Edison wasn’t even the first historical tech bro, but some French dude that eventually killed himself with his “own” invention. And the very first modern techbro was Steve Jobs, who gets cited more and more often as an influence as Elongated Muskrat is becoming more and more far-right.

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    Would Elon have fried an elephant with a Tesla car battery nowadays just to make a point how bad the competition is?

    Well I bet he would.*

    • Edison had technically nothing to do with the killing of Topsy, it was a decade after the ‘war of the currents’. It was distributed through Edison films though.
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    They found Tesla but did they found TwitterCars though? And SpaceTwitter huh? DiggerTwitter? See? Not everyone can do 4D Chess like TwitterBoy.

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      Note that the lawsuit didn’t “determine”, it was settled out of court, so there was no determination of fact.

      Instead the parties agreed to let Musk call himself a founder for undisclosed terms. Musk basically paid for people to let him use that title as part of the settlement.

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    My brain somehow read the title as “Tesla was the Elon Musk of his era,” and I got so mad for a split second that I think I may have an aneurysm to deal with in 5 years.

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    Unpopular opinion: Edison wasn’t nearly as bad as people are painting him to be.

    Extra unpopular opinion: Musk is, very much, quite similar to Nikola Tesla, as he was an extravagant lunatic, that really liked talking about shit he had no idea about, a bitter loser that prefered playing the victim over accepting responsibility for his failures, and he also had fanboys that mindlessly gobbled up everything he said.

    Edit: Hey, cowards, instead of just downvoting me, how about some of you try to help the one brave man that actually tried to prove me wrong, he seems to be bruised from falling flat on his face so many times

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    And Ray Croc didn’t invent McDonald’s, but poured the foundation that McDonald’s is built on. I place Musk in a similar, although not entirely the same, category.