and the options are sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, or water
To be fair, the alcoholic menu us typically like this too. 95% of the menu is beer, wine, or vodka and some kind of syrup.
^ This. Diet Coke/Pepsi if you’re LUCKY. Otherwise, water.
Do you people’s restaurants not serve iced tea?
In some states iced tea would also be full of sugar. And “hot tea” is a dry teabag next to a cup of warmish water.
I have been all over the continental United States of America, except California, Washington, Arizona, Nevada, and that other state up there between California and Washington that I always think is Vermont, driving a truck and have literally never been to a place that had sweet tea but not unsweet.
I’ve seen a few the other way around, but that was in New England, about as far from sweet tea culture as you can get.
Maybe a gas station or a fast food joint that use the syrups instead of brewed, but you don’t want to drink that shit
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The trick is “Unsweetened Ice Tea”, which not everyone has. :(
I mean, I just annoyed that milk isn’t even an option in a lot of restaurants. It’s something so basic, like.
actually milk is slightly acidic
jk
Sorry, the milk is for the kids’ menu. You can’t order from that.
Check the menu for items that require milk as an ingredient. You might be able to order a glass even if it isn’t on the menu.
Like milksteak?
Like anything with a bechamel-based sauce or gravy, or custard/pudding/flan, or pancakes, etc.
Unless you are at an extremely expensive or extremely small restaurant, their sauces come premade in a bag from Cisco.
Are you a cat?
Yes.
I’ve been in plenty where you could just order milk. 🤷
Though usually those are chain restaurants that prioritize breakfast, might be why.
Despite what Lucille Bluth believes, vodka doesn’t bad in a few days after opening bottle. Milk goes bad quickly.
They usually have the milk on hand for cooking, or just the kids menu. If my family of 4 can easily go through 2 gallons a week, I can’t imagine a resteraunt having problems using up milk before it goes bad unless they over-purchase
This annoys me so badly.
I don’t drink carbonated beverages, so when I go into a place and don’t want beer then my options are basically coffee or water.
Fine in the mornings, but I don’t want a coffee at 5PM. So I guess it’s just water then huh
i’m a hydrohomie, i would be/am more than fine with that.
Don’t forget fake sugar. And most of that “sugar” is actually corn we tricked into tasting like sugar.
I honestly hope you are making some attempt at a joke, and I’m just failing to get it…
I think it’s a high fructose corn syrup joke, but that’s more like squeezing all the sugar out of a cob of corn and pretending it’s juice concentrate in my mind.
Afaik, the only other options besides what you listed for beverages anywhere is milk, coffee and tea. And depending where you get them, the coffee and tea may as well just be sugar (or aspartame) too.
Well, coming from a tropical country to the US was a disappointment there. I used to be able to get a variety of freshly squeezed juices almost anywhere, and the only thing they serve around here are bottled OJ’s that barely taste like orange. It’s not even like there’s a limited variety at the grocery store, it’s just not a thing…
Juice is still pretty sugary, even fresh squeezed. They naturally have sugars in them which is why they are sweet. While a lot of premade juice also includes added sugars. There was a study posted somewhere on Lemmy not too long ago that showed most American’s sugar intake came from fruit juices and not sodas as previously thought.
I feel like this joke would have landed better 5, or maybe even 3 years ago. Every even remotely fancy restaurant I go into has jumped on the mocktail bandwagon and offers plenty of options for people avoiding alcohol.
Of course they do. They sell them equally expensive without the expensive ingredients!
Really? They’re kind a third of the price here.
Not everyone does it. Shady places charge equal price for virgin cocktails.
You are paying for way more than the sum of the parts when you order a cocktail, I’m not really sure why you’d suddenly be concerned about doing so when it comes to a mocktail.
At least in North America. I get the sense Europe still thinks drinking is cool across the board.
Some this has to do with shelf life. Beverages containing alcohol have a long shelf life. A restaurant is not going to take losses on having 50 kinds of juice or whatever on hand. Another angle to this is that a lot of the drinks on the alcoholic menu are cocktails, so just combinations of other shit they have. Finally, what adult is just drinking milk? Have some water, it is good for you.
Is this coming from experience or are you just kind of guessing? There are plenty of cocktails that use non-shelf stable stuff that you can get anywhere. On top of that, the new movement towards providing non-alcoholic drinks on the menu just reuses these same ingredients in different ways.
I’ve worked on both sides of the house for 14 years and I’m in management now. The issue is once you open products, not when they’re sitting there. Sitting there is also an issue, however, as stock that doesn’t move still incurs costs. I work on the institutional side now and we only provide nonalcoholic beverages, but they are either single serve or cheap bulk prep. These are not what people are expecting at a restaurant. Many items in cocktails also have long shelf lives after opening or are cheap/move quickly.
Many items in cocktails also have long shelf lives after opening or are cheap/move quickly.
This is why I think we see variations on actual cocktails so much…you have it, it’s open, so move it.
Exactly. It’s like having a breakfast only restaurant. You can make a menu of 50 entrees by combining 8 main ingredients with various cooking methods and spices.
that’s Taco Bell and they’ve been doing it for a long time
Lots of diners, too. That’s why they tend to be the restaurants that are around for 67 years, lol.
With having IBD I’m pretty much limited to water or milk. I’m absolutely going to drink milk when I can because I get fed up drinking water multiple times a day every fucking day.
I guess, I primarily drink water. I’m not restricted in the same way, but I’m an innate fat fuck, so water is my drink of choice. I’m surprised milk wouldn’t inflame IBD.
The milk is for parents.
I just like having milk with every meal. I don’t like water and having dinner with a fizzy drink is just wrong.
What do you mean you dont like water? You mean that liquid that makes you die if you dont have any for a couple days?
Milk is absolutely disgusting during a meal since it gets so warm and gross.
Milk is absolutely disgusting during a meal since it gets so warm and gross
Historically, milk was generally consumed warm. Breasts aren’t kegerators.
Historically it was only consumed by babies too.
Evidence suggests those that can tolerate lactose as adults are descended from farmers who drank milk to survive during seasons of bad yields.
Milk is full of great vitamins and minerals. I haven’t verified this claim but I heard someone say recently a person can entirely meet their entire nutritional needs on purely milk and potatoes, which doesn’t sound super pleasant to have as a diet, it’s certainly an easy baseline to meet
Sounds plausible. The main thing peds worry about for toddlers primarily subsisting off milk is iron deficiency. Potatoes have iron and vitamin c.
Milk is absolutely delightful with greasy foods. When are you supposed to drink it if not with meals?
Milk is disgusting with all foods, or by itself
Your taste buds are defective buddy
Nope. I don’t eat chalk either
I hate milk. I use oat milk with my coffee and that is it
No it doesn’t. Milk can stay cold for ages. Like I would have any meal gone within 10 minutes.
Consuming a meal in less than ten minutes is really not indicative of healthy eating habits.
Respectfully, what the fuck?!
Not judging you on your milk drinking, but drinking too much milk can have serious side effects. Humans weren’t biologically made to drink milk their whole lives.
They weren’t biologically made to drink alcohol or eat big macs their whole lives either yet here you are.
Yeah, this is a hella weird comment in an alcohol thread. That stuff is actually toxic, and popular mainly because of it.
What’s with Lemmy’s obsession with water? Most people know that water is the best thing to drink but this site is preachy as fuck about it.
The hydrohomies are all grown up, I guess?
I haven’t actually seen that.
Everyone knows alcohol is poison. Not many people know the side effects of drinking too much milk. You could actually become addicted to it and it would become a problem. I had a friend who had some trouble with it, which is why I typed that comment.
You’re getting downvoted but you’re actually correct. My grandfather was told by his doctor not to drink so much milk. He drank at least 3 glasses a day. I forget why but if you’re telling an 85 yo to stop doing something as a doctor, it probably has some bad short-term effects
Source? Addictive milk is kind of “out of left field” for me.
I don’t know how true this is, but I pulled this quote:
Indeed, the results suggest that milk is more addictive than cigarettes.
Very true, yet lactose intolerance is quite common among humans.
What’s a milk drinker like you doing out here? Go home to your mother.
Sorry, my mom’s busy banging YO MAMMA!
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Wait
The worst is when mocktails cost as much as cocktails. Like a non alcoholic whiskey sour will be $13, Shirley Temples are like $10
At least from my experience in NYC
What if I told you that you aren’t paying for the drinks but you’re renting the table/bar stool
jokes on them, i’m just going to get water or fucking leave, i’m not paying 10 bucks for a beverage when you can buy soda at the store for 1$ per liter.
You wouldn’t be at the bar in the first place and if you were they’d want you to leave.
I’ve never order a mixed drink in my life. Got some flasks in college and will still take that and have a soda instead. With beers being $7 minimum I’m also starting to just slam a >9% IPA before going in and having water.
Margarita with tequila? $12. Margarita without tequila? $12.
Even worse now is the non-alcoholic spirits you can buy that legit cost as much as the original alcoholic version, and then they use that in a cocktail.
Yes it Does taste just like the proper cocktail but your kinda missing half the point of the drink…
There’s the trend of restaurants having “mocktails”, which is cool, but they often charge for them based on their price for alcoholic beverages. I don’t really want a special lemonade for $14.
be me: go to restaurant => ouch ouch why is everything overpriced =< lol kek its 1 am and im drunk rn but the alcohol in coctails is not worth nearly 14 bucks you bellend
me: i’d like a glass of milk
them: sorry that’s only on the kids menu
me: you mean you can’t pour me a glass of milk unless i order from a special menu? what if i wanted coffee
them: oh then we can bring you milk
me: ok then i’ll order a coffee and just have the milk
them: sorry can’t do that.
My friend ordered an omelette without the eggs before, and it worked. A server wouldn’t sell me a double shot of Jager because it was “too much alcohol” but had no problem selling me two single shots at once.
All depends on how accommodating your server is.
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I’ve never had that problem. I basically always order milk anytime I eat out. Sometimes they only give me a kids portion or even a kids cup (it was extra funny when my wife ordered it for me and I was away from the table changing a diaper while visiting family), but usually I get a full glass of milk
You don’t like water?
Best beverage ever. Personally I couldn’t live without it
Yeah and almost any other drink contains water, what an effin’ rip-off!
/s
That is why I only drink pure vegetable oil.
Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer.
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Lol, this is especially the case when it’s my turn to be the designated driver in the group 🤣
At least I’ll stay hydrated! Hydrohomies for life!
I myself was a water bro first, only recently a hydrohomie.
Milk? Is this one of the McPoyles???
Gotta keep the bloodline pure
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It’s about money. People are okay paying way higher margins for alcoholic drinks. They want you drinking alcohol for profits and the inebriating effect makes you more likely to spend loosely.
soft drinks have huge profit margins and take no server time to prepare
And so your options are alcohol, soft drinks (coke or pepsi branded exclusively), or water
You forgot tea
You think restaurants take worker’s labor into consideration when making profitability choices? Look what servers are paid, they clearly don’t value their labor.
EDIT: I was being dramatic to prove a point. Restaurants run skeleton crews all the time to push profitability. Obviously they give it some consideration, but it’s rarely for the workers well being.
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Adults: Look at these tiktok kids eating tide pods!
Also adults: Waiter please pour me a glass of your finest toxin!
Ah, but it’s a very old pool of toxin, cooked over rotten plant matter from a swamp and aged in an obsolete form of container, and it made them significantly poorer to order it! /s
In my experience, it’s usually the same length or alcoholic ones get almost a page long. Though I did go to one where the non-alcoholic options consisted solely of sodas, shame.
The restaurants/hotels I eat at usually have green tea.
