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The woman, who was in her 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene in Cornwall Close, Hornchurch, and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.
A spokesperson for the Met said: “Police were called to Cornwall Close around 1.12pm … to reports of a woman attacked by a dog.
“These were registered XL bully dogs and prior to officers’ arrival had been contained inside a room in the house.
From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate.
Footage of an XL bully dog attacking members of the public in the street in Birmingham, including a 11-year-old girl who sustained shoulder and arm injuries, prompted an outcry in September.
In November 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis was mauled to death by a seven-stone XL bully dog called Beast.
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It was two xl bully Yorkies I’m guessing.
Judging by this thread, I’m honestly surprised someone hasn’t said that Chihuahuas are more dangerous yet.
I mean, you’re probably more likely to get bit by a Chihuahua than a pitbull.
But a pitbulls bite is a little bit worse.
Very sorry for the life of this lady.
Shitbulls should be banned.
The lady across the street from us used to own a small dog, I think it passed and she recently got an XL bully. She struggles to walk it, always looks angry with the dog, it’s always barking and glaring at me and my family. I have been carrying my gun more recently because I’m waiting for the day that dog decides to try to make a meal out of my two-year-old.
Why are dognuts the way they are? Just get a fucking pom.
Gun nuts are worse
Ban pitbulls everywhere
Ban bad owners
Make it so you need to have proven you can properly take care of one/need a license to own one. But also, neuter/spay all existing ones so no more can be born. They’ve suffered enough from human stupidity, and there are plenty of other dogs out there to choose from that need love.
people should be required to have really serious animal rescue and psychology training to get one of these dogs (or else astronomical punishment). most people who get these dogs do so on a whim and because of their own unresolved ego issues.
Some are good boys that need a home. We adopted a dog of unknown breed, they had his mom (who looked like a black mouth cur), who came in from a kill shelter pregnant.
I still don’t know what breed he is, really don’t care to find out. But he has a lot of bully features. Big puffy chest. Blocky head. Strong jaw. Smart. Highly emotional.
And he’s a fucking marshmallow. An 80lb slobbery marshmallow.
Here’s a proposal: First, all dog breeding is regulated as strictly as bars with liquor licenses. Criminal charges and jail time if found doing it illegally.
Breeders and owners are required to have insurance coverage specific to dogs.
Owners are held liable for all damages their dog causes, no matter what. Your dog attacks somebody, mauls them and they seek settlement? It’s on the owners. If the owner cannot be determined, the breeder is held liable.
Or, just make dogs above say, 30 pounds illegal. “But what if your dog is little and just really fat and becomes over 30 pounds?” Then you are fined and told to get your dog healthy within a certain timeframe, say 90 days, or surrender the dog and pay a fine for neglect, or get charged with animal abuse.
“Well then, nobody would want to get/breed dogs that are anywhere close to 30 pounds full grown because of the risk of violating the law.” Yes…that’s good. The only dogs people would have are small dogs that can’t severely maul/kill people even if they do go off the rails.
“But what about hunters or sportspeople that use dogs to hunt or herd?” Plenty of herding/hunting dogs are within that 30 pound weight range, like Corgis or Beagles. Obviously there would be exceptions for government organizations that use large dogs for legitimate purposes like Saint Bernards for search and rescue.
“But muh gawd damn riaghts!!!” go cry about it.
He’s a proposal: you don’t need new Draconian laws every time something bad happens. That’s how politicians pass every bad law. Patriot act ring any bells?
Go contemplate.
Should be distributed laws, not centralized, but you’re a statist, so this convo won’t go any further.
this convo won’t go any further
You’re right about that, which is all that matters here.
If my dogs ever tried to kill me, I’d just pin them both down. That’s the benefit of not having insanely powerful dogs.
IMO you shouldn’t have a dog that you can’t physically restrain. Any dog can snap and you need to be able to physically stop them if that happens.
Does Lemmy has a Ban Pitbulls community yet?
Any dog can snap
Dishonest statement. That’s like saying “Any ceiling fan can decapitate you”. Technically true, but so extraordinarily unlikely for most breeds that you should be more worried about car crashes if you fear for your life…
Animals are still animals. It isn’t dishonest to say that we should respect them and their space through understanding and recognizing their behavior. Don’t allow your love for an animal cloud the basic judgment that every animal may have its moment. Don’t be afraid, just be aware.
Any ceiling fan can fall unexpectedly, but only an absurdly sturdy and powerful one will decapitate someone when it comes down
You don’t have a Big Ass Fan in your rec room!?
Yep. We’re on the same page now!
What if you have a very dainty neck?
I was about to say, you would need a LOT of force for a fan blade to cut through your neck meat all the way through. A domestic ceiling fan capable of decapitating someone would be completely excessive.
Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?
“I don’t understand. I bought a ceiling fan with razor edge blades to scare off burglars, but it fell down and decapitated grandma”
When I asked them about the fan’s history, all they would tell me it is got shipped up here from Texas
This one time I was dealing with an exhaust system that split to two separate paths. The blowers were so powerful that if one was on it could move the other backwards which caused the VFD on the other one to fault. It was pretty cool.
You should worry about ones like that.
Ban fully semiautomatic assault fans
But yeah, I deal with Delta/Sanyo Denki fans from time to time and I’m not volunteering to get anywhere near them
I’d be careful with such stuff bought directly via temu or alibaba.
Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?
ceiling fan breeds
Clearly, you have never pissed off a chihuahua.
My fat ass has consumed bigger meals than a mass of a Chihuahua.
A Chihuahua can be yeeted into the stratosphere by 99% of humanity. Not so for other breeds
I hope you’re not a bleeder.
You say that like you’ve seen a calm Chihuahua.
Any breed can produce a dog that is prone to snap.
Some breeds are much more likely to do so.
Of those, only a few are both prone to snap and large enough to hurt you.
Oh those, pit bills are far and away the most aggressive.
That said, most pitbulls really are fine. For being the most dangerous breed, there are millions of pitbulls, and a few thousand incidents over a few years.
I don’t think any ceiling fan could decapitate me. They are blunt wooden blades and the motor is like 1/3 HP but usually not on full.
So it’s like saying, “any fan might hit you in the head, don’t put a metal sharp-bladed industrial exhaust fan on your bedroom ceiling.”
Hmm, you make a good point.
me not knowing the breed looks them up via DDG
So she was basically mauled by the Demon Dogs from Ghostbusters.
looks them up via DDG
I really miss “Google” being a synonym for “search engine”. Can we make a new one? “I Google’d it” sounds a lot better than “I looked it up via DuckDuckGo”
I ducked it up
“So i went and Ducked it”
Eh? Eh?
just one… single… Slip
I just binged the shit out of it
I Bing’d it and it told me to download Microsoft Edge
i get that some dogs just have a naturally high prey and aggression drive but a lot of times it has to do with learned behavior at home too :(
This. She must have been giving them treats whenever they killed her.
No, it’s the video games fault!
/s
Didn’t even need to put the breed in the title, we already know.
That’s very naive. There’s plenty of breeds of dogs that kill people.
Yeah, that’s true, but in the UK XL Bullies specifically have been doing all the maulings recently that have generated serious press coverage; also they themselves have just been added as the sixth (?) banned canine breed in the UK.
It always ends up the the dogs are kept in the yard or kenneled the entire time
“XL bully dogs”? Have we stopped saying “pit bull” because of and I never got the memo?
Idk if it’s the same everywhere but in my experience in America I have came across a huge range of canine breeds owned by a huge range of human breeds (quality of person) and 100% of the time the human was a caring person that loved their dog the breed is unnoticeable. On the other side, when the human is subpar the breed of the dog is more noticeable as an inverse correlation to how shitty the person is.
This is the dog equivalent of “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”
But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.
But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.
… those ones not killed by the gun would be killed by the next lethal device in place of it, it is the will which drives the action, not the device
Your opinion is not grounded in fact as represented by statistics from a wide range of countries.
Guns are the easiest method to kill people with. A spree stabber isnt going to kill and main NEAR as many people before they are dealt with as a spree shooter will
Lmao but at least next lethal device isn’t something that has sole purpose of killing people.
Like how stupid you have to be… guns only and one numbero uno purpose is killing people. And they are fucking good at it, nothing else comes close.
A knife? Bitch please you have to get close, grab the victim and stab many times. It’s easier to run away from a blade than from a fucking bullet unless you are Neo.
What’s the purpose of legal gun ownership?? To defend against legal gun ownership. It’s a fucking ouroboros of stupidity.
The will cannot drive the action without the tool.
Then it will be something else.
Mind I’m not defending the free-guns-for-all policy so dear to a sadly large part of americans, I’m just saying that the tool is not the real issue, that one would be the finality of the action and the fecklessness, the morbidly carelessness and yet horrible thoroughness, attached to the though of ending or seriously harming another person. That one is a cultural problem, and very deep.
Sure guns were instrumental to spread and nourishing such culture, but if it wasn’t the gun then the will to kill would have been manifested through the next available tool.
What next tool are you talking about?
Guns are specifically designed to kill people at quickly and efficiently as possible at great distance. Take that tool away and you put some serious limits on the will to kill.
Large dog breeds need to be trained very carefully. My friends have a 100 lbs husky, just a massive wolf looking dog. When he was a pup, he was food protective, so they made sure to train that behavior completely out of Steel(the dog).
In the present day, Steel is 8 years old, in the prime of his physical size and health, and the sweetest boi. With different owners, he’d have negative habits that lead his behaviour and made him dangerous.
Those who toy with the devil are sure to get burned, huh?
