Victim, who was in her 50s, pronounced dead at scene in Hornchurch and the animals seized
  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
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    6 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    The woman, who was in her 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene in Cornwall Close, Hornchurch, and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.

    A spokesperson for the Met said: “Police were called to Cornwall Close around 1.12pm … to reports of a woman attacked by a dog.

    “These were registered XL bully dogs and prior to officers’ arrival had been contained inside a room in the house.

    From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate.

    Footage of an XL bully dog attacking members of the public in the street in Birmingham, including a 11-year-old girl who sustained shoulder and arm injuries, prompted an outcry in September.

    In November 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis was mauled to death by a seven-stone XL bully dog called Beast.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        6 months ago

        I mean, you’re probably more likely to get bit by a Chihuahua than a pitbull.

        But a pitbulls bite is a little bit worse.

    • Classy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      6 months ago

      The lady across the street from us used to own a small dog, I think it passed and she recently got an XL bully. She struggles to walk it, always looks angry with the dog, it’s always barking and glaring at me and my family. I have been carrying my gun more recently because I’m waiting for the day that dog decides to try to make a meal out of my two-year-old.

      Why are dognuts the way they are? Just get a fucking pom.

      • Kiosade@lemmy.caEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Make it so you need to have proven you can properly take care of one/need a license to own one. But also, neuter/spay all existing ones so no more can be born. They’ve suffered enough from human stupidity, and there are plenty of other dogs out there to choose from that need love.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    people should be required to have really serious animal rescue and psychology training to get one of these dogs (or else astronomical punishment). most people who get these dogs do so on a whim and because of their own unresolved ego issues.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Some are good boys that need a home. We adopted a dog of unknown breed, they had his mom (who looked like a black mouth cur), who came in from a kill shelter pregnant.

      I still don’t know what breed he is, really don’t care to find out. But he has a lot of bully features. Big puffy chest. Blocky head. Strong jaw. Smart. Highly emotional.

      And he’s a fucking marshmallow. An 80lb slobbery marshmallow.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Here’s a proposal: First, all dog breeding is regulated as strictly as bars with liquor licenses. Criminal charges and jail time if found doing it illegally.

    Breeders and owners are required to have insurance coverage specific to dogs.

    Owners are held liable for all damages their dog causes, no matter what. Your dog attacks somebody, mauls them and they seek settlement? It’s on the owners. If the owner cannot be determined, the breeder is held liable.

    Or, just make dogs above say, 30 pounds illegal. “But what if your dog is little and just really fat and becomes over 30 pounds?” Then you are fined and told to get your dog healthy within a certain timeframe, say 90 days, or surrender the dog and pay a fine for neglect, or get charged with animal abuse.

    “Well then, nobody would want to get/breed dogs that are anywhere close to 30 pounds full grown because of the risk of violating the law.” Yes…that’s good. The only dogs people would have are small dogs that can’t severely maul/kill people even if they do go off the rails.

    “But what about hunters or sportspeople that use dogs to hunt or herd?” Plenty of herding/hunting dogs are within that 30 pound weight range, like Corgis or Beagles. Obviously there would be exceptions for government organizations that use large dogs for legitimate purposes like Saint Bernards for search and rescue.

    “But muh gawd damn riaghts!!!” go cry about it.

    • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      He’s a proposal: you don’t need new Draconian laws every time something bad happens. That’s how politicians pass every bad law. Patriot act ring any bells?

      Go contemplate.

  • li10@feddit.ukEnglish
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    6 months ago

    If my dogs ever tried to kill me, I’d just pin them both down. That’s the benefit of not having insanely powerful dogs.

    IMO you shouldn’t have a dog that you can’t physically restrain. Any dog can snap and you need to be able to physically stop them if that happens.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Any dog can snap

      Dishonest statement. That’s like saying “Any ceiling fan can decapitate you”. Technically true, but so extraordinarily unlikely for most breeds that you should be more worried about car crashes if you fear for your life…

      • Xanis@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Animals are still animals. It isn’t dishonest to say that we should respect them and their space through understanding and recognizing their behavior. Don’t allow your love for an animal cloud the basic judgment that every animal may have its moment. Don’t be afraid, just be aware.

      • Garbanzo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Any ceiling fan can fall unexpectedly, but only an absurdly sturdy and powerful one will decapitate someone when it comes down

        • GreatAlbatross@feddit.ukEnglish
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          6 months ago

          “I don’t understand. I bought a ceiling fan with razor edge blades to scare off burglars, but it fell down and decapitated grandma”

          • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
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            6 months ago

            When I asked them about the fan’s history, all they would tell me it is got shipped up here from Texas

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 months ago

          This one time I was dealing with an exhaust system that split to two separate paths. The blowers were so powerful that if one was on it could move the other backwards which caused the VFD on the other one to fault. It was pretty cool.

          You should worry about ones like that.

          • ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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            6 months ago

            Ban fully semiautomatic assault fans

            But yeah, I deal with Delta/Sanyo Denki fans from time to time and I’m not volunteering to get anywhere near them

        • Hadriscus@lemm.eeEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?

          ceiling fan breeds

      • Wogi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Any breed can produce a dog that is prone to snap.

        Some breeds are much more likely to do so.

        Of those, only a few are both prone to snap and large enough to hurt you.

        Oh those, pit bills are far and away the most aggressive.

        That said, most pitbulls really are fine. For being the most dangerous breed, there are millions of pitbulls, and a few thousand incidents over a few years.

      • barsquid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        I don’t think any ceiling fan could decapitate me. They are blunt wooden blades and the motor is like 1/3 HP but usually not on full.

        So it’s like saying, “any fan might hit you in the head, don’t put a metal sharp-bladed industrial exhaust fan on your bedroom ceiling.”

  • TransplantedSconie@lemm.eeEnglish
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    6 months ago

    me not knowing the breed looks them up via DDG

    So she was basically mauled by the Demon Dogs from Ghostbusters.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    6 months ago

    i get that some dogs just have a naturally high prey and aggression drive but a lot of times it has to do with learned behavior at home too :(

      • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Yeah, that’s true, but in the UK XL Bullies specifically have been doing all the maulings recently that have generated serious press coverage; also they themselves have just been added as the sixth (?) banned canine breed in the UK.

  • AeonFelis@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    “XL bully dogs”? Have we stopped saying “pit bull” because of and I never got the memo?

  • 11111one11111@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Idk if it’s the same everywhere but in my experience in America I have came across a huge range of canine breeds owned by a huge range of human breeds (quality of person) and 100% of the time the human was a caring person that loved their dog the breed is unnoticeable. On the other side, when the human is subpar the breed of the dog is more noticeable as an inverse correlation to how shitty the person is.

    • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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      6 months ago

      This is the dog equivalent of “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”

      But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.

      • tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        6 months ago

        But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.

        … those ones not killed by the gun would be killed by the next lethal device in place of it, it is the will which drives the action, not the device

        • Cypher@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Your opinion is not grounded in fact as represented by statistics from a wide range of countries.

        • Kedly@lemm.eeEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Guns are the easiest method to kill people with. A spree stabber isnt going to kill and main NEAR as many people before they are dealt with as a spree shooter will

        • Emmie@lemm.eeEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Lmao but at least next lethal device isn’t something that has sole purpose of killing people.

          Like how stupid you have to be… guns only and one numbero uno purpose is killing people. And they are fucking good at it, nothing else comes close.

          A knife? Bitch please you have to get close, grab the victim and stab many times. It’s easier to run away from a blade than from a fucking bullet unless you are Neo.

          What’s the purpose of legal gun ownership?? To defend against legal gun ownership. It’s a fucking ouroboros of stupidity.

          • tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            6 months ago

            Then it will be something else.

            Mind I’m not defending the free-guns-for-all policy so dear to a sadly large part of americans, I’m just saying that the tool is not the real issue, that one would be the finality of the action and the fecklessness, the morbidly carelessness and yet horrible thoroughness, attached to the though of ending or seriously harming another person. That one is a cultural problem, and very deep.

            Sure guns were instrumental to spread and nourishing such culture, but if it wasn’t the gun then the will to kill would have been manifested through the next available tool.

            • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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              6 months ago

              What next tool are you talking about?

              Guns are specifically designed to kill people at quickly and efficiently as possible at great distance. Take that tool away and you put some serious limits on the will to kill.

  • Skkorm@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Large dog breeds need to be trained very carefully. My friends have a 100 lbs husky, just a massive wolf looking dog. When he was a pup, he was food protective, so they made sure to train that behavior completely out of Steel(the dog).

    In the present day, Steel is 8 years old, in the prime of his physical size and health, and the sweetest boi. With different owners, he’d have negative habits that lead his behaviour and made him dangerous.