I’m a nurse and oversaw a doctor checking his bank statements: his salary is a bit more than twice what I earn.
This is not a particularly productive doctor, if you listen to several doctors and nurses where I work at. Just today I overheard a group of 3 female doctors ranting about him and how all he does is sitting and playing with his phone, always redirecting us nurses to talk to the other doctors. I was surprised, because I never expected to find so much drama between doctors, them being much more educated than nurses and I never expected doctors, specially female doctors, to use that kind of language.
This lazy doctor earns more than double my salary. It’s depressing.
But I also feel like a loser, because even those ranting doctors earn more than twice what I do… and they get to sit for longer than I do.
Regretting my life choices.
Maybe the sane choice here would be to study or to get a certification that means a higher salary?
Doctors go to school for seven years racking up debt, and then usually have to shoulder the burden of liability and operational costs. It’s expensive to become a medical doctor, and expensive to be a medical doctor.
These costs are part of what keeps both doctors and patients safe. Doctors end up with both the power and the risk.
Nurses by comparison have only basic training before on the job training kicks in; it’s relatively easy to become a nurse, and if you mess up, the worst that’s going to happen is that you get fired and have to go work somewhere else.
But even as a nurse, if you’re quick to pick things up, you can move up the ranks and find a specialty that has more power and pays better than a standard RN. Without the seven years of debt.
And life’s not just about pay; quality of life is generally more important, and that sucks for most doctors, who have relatively short life expectancies and limited time to spend their money.
This.
Additionally, there are lazy people in every company/industry. Many of whom earn more than the average person. Oftentimes, life just isn’t fair.
Oftentimes, life just isn’t fair.
Remember to thank a capitalist for this
Life was unfair long before capitalism, and will be unfair after it.
Nah, uncle Mao and papa Putin have shown us life’s a bitch even in communism.
Also, some clever leeches are going to exist regardless.
Shit, Russia is communist? Why didn’t the Central Committee send me the memo?
Let’s be real they’re both fascist states. I don’t think Russia even claims to be Communist.
Become a doctor, then the nurses can hate you whenever you decompress too.
This lazy doctor earns more than double my salary. It’s depressing.
Wait until you find out how lazy people with inherited wealth are…and they make way more than double your salary in passive gains.
Double than ANY of our salaries with their passive gains. Few of the working class are failures, only the system
Orphan crush machine requires Orphans to crush
How does anyone accept executives making 100x or more the salary of everyone else?
Or youtubers, or twitch streamers making bank?
Okay that’s different
A MD with 7+ years of education and loads of debt earning more than a nurse with far less education and debt is fair.
An exec with barely any education, debt or importance earning 10× or more what the actual workers do is not fair.
I don’t deal with that, but I also can’t fix it without unwrenching the fabric of our society and I’m going to need a lot more people for that.
This is a little different. Whereas executives might not have any requirement on education or performance, in the US at least you’ve got 6 years education And 2 years residency to become an MD. It is still crazy money considering I’ve got 11 years in a PhD with an actual contribution to a field, but not insane compared to a 4 year degree or less.
C’est la vie
I’m okay with YouTubers getting paid. A lot of them put his of thought and work into their videos without earning anything, before they do. And yt never paid any of them fairly. What I’m not ok with is it’s endless ads and creators not being fairly compensated. Hence why I donate what I can, when I can, to creators I use. I also wish invidious instance operators were easier to donate to, but I see why they aren’t.
Sure. But my reply was specifically to OP about doctors being paid more than nurses for doing “less work”.
There’s an mbin issue. It’s been reported. https://kbin.earth/m/mbinmeta@gehirneimer.de/t/304935/Feedback-Suggestions-and-Questions/comment/2799826#entry-comment-2799826
The fact that you’re jealous of a person who spent ten years of their life studying in a stressful and competitive school with over $100k in student loan debt reveals to me you have no awareness and are exactly in the correct job you were supposed to be in.
Yes, they don’t understand, so what?. Maybe they’re young, maybe they just never learned. Do you really think your backhanded comment is going to make things better? If you want to strike people down for asking questions that are too simple from your perspective, you should visit stack overflow more often.
You response mentions the right issues, but tone of voice matters. If you insult, belittle or alienate anyone who tries to understand what they don’t understand, you’re just throwing them to the republicans or the right wing populists.
People these days are often not interested in learning or understanding. If someone does, you should encourage that.
That commenter is a bootlicker lol what do you expect from a person like that
Look at the grammatical errors throughout their post. The cherry on top being the statement at the end being terminated with a question mark.
They also just recently had a question that includes them being on a pip.
I get the feeling that this person should be grateful that this doctor is only making enough more than they are that they would use the word “twice” to describe the salary discrepancy.
Oh wow, just checked out their posts and they’re the same person who asked about a “US vs the country of Europe” comparison recently.
The same person that asked if boiling meat removes the bacteria from it. Not does it kill the bacteria, removes it: https://linux.community/post/1306359
In their defence, “Cooking gets rid off the bacteria problem, right?” is a common misconception.
why are you so easy to trigger?
I can’t remember a time that I’ve heard a more obvious projection, especially when it makes no sense. Who would read my post and get “triggered” from it? Lol
I think they know. The problem is the doctor that about all of the work gets paid as much as the others that do his and their own.
My wife got a position at a teaching hospital and the director was making about 2.5x her salary. When the administration figured out he was completely unqualified to be the director, they made him a faculty and her the director. Now he still made 2.5x her salary and proceeded to just sit in his office and not do any of the work. He was tenured and so it took 4 years to force him out of the school. He of course quit and got a job elsewhere just before being fired.
Some people are just lazy and worthless, but are able to study hard enough to learn how to pass the tests. Then they try and coast thru life because of how hard they worked to get there.
Speaking as a technician (associate’s degree), every engineer in my country makes easily double what I do. Doctors, lawyers, and engineers are just examples of professions that are paid more for their expertise than their actual work output. I would have to work 60-hour weeks just to get paid what a fresh engineering grad would get.
If you think you’re at the top of your pay scale and want to earn more, then you should probably think about further education or look into travel nursing if travel is interesting/a possibility for you. Some kind of specialized knowledge like radiation, imaging, or anesthesiology would probably help.
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If it helps at all, if you do your job right follow the doctors orders and administer care and medications as instructed you are next to impossible to be held responsible for the patient having negative outcomes. A doctor, even a hard working one who knows their shit well and does their absolute best is still under the constant threat of a career ending lawsuit from a patient.
Only twice?
I mean if you think what he does is easy then go to med school. Debt for a medical degree pays back 100x over a 20 year career. If you believe that you can do it, then there is no excuse not to.
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What about “That kid inhert his wealth from his dad and do nothing while i have to work paycheck to paycheck”
Salty
If you’re in the US, run for Congress, win, reform the medicaid backed doctor residency program, with the aim of opening it up so many more people can become doctors. Then watch as the new supply brings down salaries, and eventually gets lazy/ineffective doctors fired. Revenge is a dish best served nation wide, as they say.
Lol @ the absolute delusion on display here.
Nobody is that regarded, I say sarcasm?
Shitty doctors can make a ton of money because there’s a massive shortage of doctors.
Is it too late to become a nurse practitioner?
You should take advantage of the free continuing education you likely get. While nurse practicioner isn’t quite as high paying you can get there without [more] debt and get raises on the way as you get more deducation.
You’ll go crazy if you dwell on this. The corporate world is the same way. Generally speaking, the less actual work a person does, the more they tend to get paid. It’s a tale as old as time.
