• Ulvain@sh.itjust.works
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    26 days ago

    Let me clarify: the business didn’t need the employee to be there, it needed the employee to be pliable.

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    26 days ago

    I literally told my employees back in the day that if for any reason a request was denied, just don’t show up anyway. I also never asked for a reason for the request. The building won’t burn down if you aren’t here. Just keep in mind that someone has to pick up the slack and pay it forward.

    My direct boss always wondered why employees would come in on off days to cover shifts when I was there, but not him. Don’t be an ass, treat employees with respect, and surprise, surprise, people actually want to work.

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      26 days ago

      Reminds me of my former employer. Would always give us time off when we requested it. Was always understanding if we needed time away or had issues going on that impacted us work. When I gave my 2 weeks notice I told him to call me if he needed cover as I knew him and his wife were going on holiday soon (the guy almost never takes proper time off). Nearly a month later he calls and mentioned one of his newer employees was out sick. Very enthusiastically agreed to come back for a week to cover them as I had started my own business. Lovely people and would always cover a skip like that in a heart beat. They’re few and far between.

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      26 days ago

      My God, not a single negative review at the time of writing this. Perhaps we should rethink office politics combatative hierarchical structures.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    26 days ago

    I dunno who needs to hear this but, they need us more than we need them.

    They keep trying to flex and act like they’re in charge of everything because they sign the paychecks, the fact of the matter is that the money they give you is a paltry amount compared to what they’re making from your labor. If you don’t do the work, they won’t make any money at all. Sure as shit the business owner isn’t going to step up to do your job.

    They need you. They want to convince you that you need them. They want to take your power away from you.

    Employment is a two-way street. Anyone who will treat you like trash isn’t worthy of your sweat.

    • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
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      25 days ago

      Your uninformed (or hopeful) if you think big businesses make money from labor. A lot of it is from capital, investments or rent.

      E.g. McDonald’s profits are mostly from rent.

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        25 days ago

        I get what you’re saying here. McDonald’s, the franchiser, makes money on rent. But they’re renting to McDonald’s franchisee’s (at least in part, likely a majority of it). Even if they’re renting out to third parties, those third parties are making money largely from service, which is rendered via labor.

        So the service is performed by labor, and the service makes the revenue to pay the rent and pay the labor, QED, rent is paid by labor.

        McDonald’s franchisee’s are paying their rent with labor. It’s not like the franchise is getting fully assembled big Macs delivered. The labor needs to assemble the parts to make the whole.

        Without labor, they would have no product to sell, since it’s not feasible to cut out the on site assembly of the food while keeping it as fresh as it is.

        Yes, a nontrivial part of revenue is in materials, and there’s a mark up on the sale of those materials when sold, but the majority of cost is for the labor of putting everything together.

        On top of this, there’s plenty of non-McDonald’s examples of the same. I work in IT support, almost all of my work is service, where I go in, either in person or remotely, and perform corrections to get things working normally. There’s plenty of industries that have similar models, where there’s little to no production of things that you’re paying for, and the vast majority of the payment is for labor.

        Finance, tax prep, handymen, carpenters, welders, programmers, factory workers, delivery drivers… The lion share of revenue is directly from labor.

        With food service costs are generally split between labor and materials, since the raw materials can be rather costly, but for many other workforces, labor is the main revenue.

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    26 days ago

    I got fired as a teenager for visiting my late grandfather on his deathbed. I was fired within a few days of his death.

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    25 days ago

    At work right now they’re denying all the new vacation requests because we’ve got to make a bunch of products for customer. But they at least told us when the order was placed, so everybody took a vacation before the rush or planned one afterwards.

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    25 days ago

    I’ve managed people for 20 years, and I’ve never denied a PTO request. The business has never collapsed because of that.

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    Can somebody explain “y’all can front if y’all want”?

    edit: thanks for the replies. The differences in interpretations make me wonder why people don’t just say “bluff” or “challenge me” or whatever the boss actually did mean to say. It seems like inventing slang has really accelerated in the last say 20 years. I hear so many more slang terms now. It’s like everybody wants to make up their own language. Seems like non-inclusive behavior to me.

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    24 days ago

    I think “the needs of the business” include firing managers who make stupid decisions.

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      24 days ago

      Being denied PTO on a specific day and slavery are not the same. Source: California just voted to continue enslaving people, PTO was not brought up.

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    24 days ago

    When I was a supervisor I had to reject a ton of PTO requests because we only had so many slots available in a day and our scheduling lady wouldn’t work with me AT ALL. The only thing I could tell them was they can switch shifts with one of their coworkers or “You, know, you only have x points against your attendance and consecutive days off still only count as 1…”. We had a lot more missed days due to people taking full advantage of the attendance policy than we would if we’d just scheduled them off the day they asked for. One of many reasons I got out of that job asap.

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    24 days ago

    Notice that they don’t mention WHAT the request was for? My money is on a funeral.

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      24 days ago

      It’s irrelevant what it was for, it’s your paid time off, it’s a part of your salary. America is soooooooo fucked, I’m so glad I don’t have to deal with the bullshit I see here daily.