Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.
Fuck you Disney
Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.
The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.
Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.
Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them
This one’s my favorite
Well, now they’re openly hostile instead.
See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”
Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”
its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it, but the cons that never watches these have been calling it woke. a great example is STD discovery, such a bad show, but everyone has been pointing how the female leads are boring asfm Kurtzman having an obssesion with pushing it for some reason.
its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it,
I still cringe remembering the trailer for Q-Force…
“You can’t pander to the gays, they can smell it, you’re like citibank at Pride”
Was an actual line in the trailer.
I always thought it was bold of them to include the reaction of the janitor who was taking out the trash whilst overhearing the pitch…
I have friends from all over the political spectrum, I’ve made a pyrrhic victory, a few of the right-leaning ones actually suddenly support trans rights now that the Republicans are basically treating us like Jews in Germany… the Pyrrhic part was it taking Iowa removing all civil rights from transpeople before they believed me that transpeople were the victims, not the perpatrators.
One of them ranted and raved to me about how “LGBT People wouldn’t be in this mess if they hadn’t demanded Hollywood force in all these terrible woke characters into everything!”
I had to explain to him the concept of Rainbow Capitalism and that we hated it to… He didn’t believe me until I gave him a link of Brendan Rogers mocking the shit out of it as his Bryce Tankthrust character… which I only recently learned was named Bryce Tankthrust, really thought it was Bryce Taintthrust this whole time.
Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.
What if I am offended by Christian characters, something wildly inappropriate for young impressionable minds?
Don’t watch it! We should always vote what we like with our wallets. If we all do, it will all figure itself out.
Honestly it is two faces of the same coin
Yeah I’m being facetious and flipping that coin over 🙂
Disney be like: “Friendship ended with rainbow capitalism, now christian capitalism is my best friend.”
Any way the wind blows…
Doesn’t really matters to me…
This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007’s Bridge to Terabithia.
So it’s not really the first then, is it?
An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney’s attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.
This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren’t they leaving money on the table like this? “Well, because of Trump.” Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
This article isn’t very well written. Many such cases, sadly.
Isn’t Captain America Christian too? Like, he openly says there’s only one God, he goes to church etc.
Marvel doesn’t count
- Disney, probably
The majority doesn’t approve of more LGBT characters either, it’s just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.
In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn’t know how they felt.
I’d venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.
Because it’s not about majority rules but the bottom line.
In other words, those 30 some odd percent could be so disgusted by LGBT content that they will cancel. Or stir shit up and cause a boycott. Where as the majority just really doesn’t care one way or the other.
The majority may be vocal about this, but that doesn’t matter as long as the bottom line isn’t affected.
My interpretation is less about pandering to the perceived majority and more about avoiding drawing negative attention from the Trump/Musk administration which is clearly very petty and very receptive to virtue signals. Do they kiss the ring? They get special treatment. Do they do something perfectly within their rights that Trump doesn’t like? He’ll find some way to make them hurt for it and take whatever concessions they offer to avoid being hurt
because maga voters are more likely to send bomb threats
It’s Newsweek.
Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
I mean, considering his pettiness, probably. Either with carrot or stick, he wants to be heard and wants people to bend over backwards to gain his approval. In exchange, he might do a tax cut or two for those who manage to please him, while he’ll try to crush those who oppose him.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump administration threatened Disney into ditching it.
boo Disney. Spineless.
Spineless? They’re rainbow capitalists through and through. Fuck them.
Disney has a history of gay censorship, and seem to have Christian movies every year à la Christmas
True. I had forgotten their shift from “pretty damn wonderful” to holy roller bullshit. Good call!
Nothing seems to be holy to these ‘Christians’. Some are making terrible jokes about all Muslims having to deal with the consequences of hell, because of their fake believe - Others are even joking about the holocaust… why do you even need a book if you have no morals?
I hope this means that they have canceled the Snow White movie.
Disus Christ enters chat - because Disney and Jesus are now brothers.
Better headline, “Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time.”
Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:
what’s the problem of that theme park?
Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini’s idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,
“There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”
Oh yeah they actually did make that Disney Town, it was a dystopian nightmare and failed horribly.
You love to see a business learn to fail faster.
That sounds like communism
Aahh, see? Now that is more problematic than the article about a folkloric world theme park I read.
But it’s also not exactly new, company towns were already a sad part of our reality. Luckily we got over it, but rich people of course always want to get back to it.
We never got over it, they just use 401ks to control our futures now, and corporate owned housing is why rents are too high for us to do anything but work, eat, scroll, and sleep. If we stop to protest we’re in danger of homelessness.
At this point there are only two rational viewpoints on the world situation.
- The system is broken and needs to be fixed
- The system is working as intended and must be destroyed
I aint exactly Robbie Rotten singing “We Are Number 1” if you catch my cold.
“Openly” as if Christians aren’t the dominant cultural and political group in the USA
I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends
Yeah, “demonstrably” or “obnoxiously” would probably be much more accurate…
It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like
- Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
- Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
- Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
- Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”
So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?
One of my personal favorites:
- Luke 12:46-48:
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.
The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…
- Ephesians 6:5–8:
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
Oof.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.
That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.
All he had to do was say, “don’t own people,” and yet…
Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery,
The Bible is explicitly pro-slavery. It was literally used by slavers in the 19th century American South to justify and continue the practice of chattal slavery. They printed “slave Bibles” where all mentions of anything related to “freedom” were removed, and the focus was on teaching obedience and submission.
What a thing for an “all-powerful” god to facilitate. Even if he were real and simply allowed his holy book to be used for such an evil purpose is enough for me to say “yeah, no thanks.”
Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?
I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.
In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.
The worst part is Conservatives actually ARE NOT good at boycotts
Just look at how badly the Bud Light boycott failed, and the reason why was because drinkers boycotted Bud Light and then started drinking… Other beers made by literally the same company.
And of course there were the people who bought Jerseys just to turn around and burn them in order to protest the NFL.
Then again I broke my own rules and ate at a Chic-Fil-A for the first time in years, because I was depressed and the thing in my head that drops sadness hormones told me it’d shut up if I got waffle fries dipped in ranch, so… You kinda still have a point
To be fair it was my first Chic-Fil-A meal in like 9 years, and on the Black Out Day I did shop yes, but I did so at a Locally Owned Chain that is owned by a Gay Guy who donates to Food Banks… Avoiding ALL gas stations despite having a quarter tank left…
But still… we all need to practice self-awareness
Yup. Leftists Don’t have that insane person conviction. Dip shits need to learn to boycott
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling at every opportunity and they’ll do the same for Disney.
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling
YMMV, but in my ‘woke’ crowd, nobody’s buying that merch anymore. The only people I know still doing harry potter themed crap all voted rightwing.
The last thing I saw come through was the game. A few of the left-leaning gamers bought it but way less than baulders and starfield.
This, in my circle the only Harry Potter merch I see people rocking is either at least a decade old or was bought at a convention at a booth selling fanmade merch.
This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it’s now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.
I’ve started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.
But I’m only one person.
I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don’t intend to let up. I’ve added Amazon’s websites to my Pihole’s blacklist.
But I also don’t pirate their stuff. As far as I’m concerned their TV shows and movies and such don’t exist on this planet.
When They fucked me over on my PS3 linux install, I had a Sony TV, A Sony receiver, 2 Playstations and a ton of games.
They’re all long gone now.
Never again
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over, why would they try and placate them?
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over
Where?
Gestures broadly at Lemmy.
Lemmy is a niche of a niche and there are more centrists (liberals) here than leftists
What niche of a niche? Reddit is pretty mainstream now.
Everywhere?
The whole idea of leftism is to deconstruct hierarchical power structures.
mega corps are the current incarnation of exactly that.
Ideals aren’t the same as action
Fair, fully agree there.
What do you mean where? It’s literally in the name.
Corporate “allyship” at its finest.
Disney will be happy to fight for the rights of LGBT people… When it’s profitable and will not actually show up to the battle until AFTER the oppressed person has won.
Corporate “allyship” was all for show.
