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    The dutch are laughing with their bikes with the massive storage box thing

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    Walking to my grocery store and back would be an all day affair and I’d have to have help hauling everything because I’m married with two kids, so our two week grocery bill runs between $200 and $300 depending on what all we need. My closest Walmart is 25 miles away. My closest local grocery store is about 7. And there is no public transportation here.

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          All american cities were built that way until the suburbs were deliberately built to destroy that, because there was more profit in the system of private vehicles. (Along with everything else that falls on each individual in the suburbs, which also prevents us from organizing, which benefits the designers of this system)

          Your problem is assuming if it can’t be done by one person, single-handedly, then it can’t be done at all. For every person that thinks like this, our capacity as a class is reduced.

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              Sure, we have leftists in America; we just removed on Lemmy instead of actually stand on street corners handing out pamphlets.

              lmao, speak for yourself dude. There are plenty organizations doing this work; not just handing out pamphlets but actual organizing, direct action, education, mobilization, etc; you just haven’t gone looking for them and by default you exist in an ecosystem that suppresses them from your view.

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                  Sure, and you let me know when your city council; or any politician at any level of government for that matter; does anything to materially improve conditions for the working class, completely unprompted by working class people organizing and making demands. And you let me know too if they are faithful to those demands and give any credit to the organizations that pushed it through, or give just enough to shut people up and present it as if it was all part of their plan the whole time.

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          My call out was not constructive, but it wasn’t intended to be. You can always emigrate.

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              Germany is going to turn you away because they’re also becoming rightwing authoritarian, not because they think US immigrants are too fascist.

              Also, they’re too scared of the US to officially grant US citizens asylum, even if they did want to do that.

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                  AFAIK the other EU/EFTA countries aren’t much better when it comes to rightwing authoritarianism. Even the ones that currently have center-left governments usually have a strong far right opposition waiting for next election, and a lot of the time the center-left governments are already enacting rightwing authoritarian policies (see UK).

                  But fair, Germany should know better given its history, but instead it just made them more vulnerable to Israeli propaganda and blackmail.

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      Rough!

      I have 3 large supermarkets in less than a 10 minute walk and another small one that would be “walking from the parking lot” distance.

      We also have a local sourdough bakery and a sort of farmers market pickup point within walking distance.

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    Living within 1 kilometer walking distance of a grocery store is amazing. Instead of expensive fast food I can get comparatively inexpensive deli food. And if I want to be frugal and cook meals myself, cheap beans, rice, fresh meat, dairy, and produce are all available. Plus, I get a nice daily walk instead of checks notes from a previous life drive twenty minutes to the gym each day to walk on a treadmill.

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      I got a rice cooker recently, great investment. I pan fry up whatever, some protein and vegetables, I’ve got a few good recipes going. With rice. I’ve been eating healthier and way cheaper. Tonight was chicken, green beans, and various seasonings. Was delicious af and cost me like 1.50$, if that.

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      do grocery stores where you live not have frozen food? that’s the ideal in my book: perfectly decent quality and you just have to heat it.


      This is the best one i’ve tried, it’s literally just frozen veggies, precooked pasta, chicken, and sauce. Healthy as fuck while tasting great and taking 0 effort to prepare.

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        Healthy as fuck is a bit of a stretch for industrially-processed food grown with pesticides. It’s better than fast food.

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          Come off it, chopping veggies up and freezing them (‘industrial processing’) doesn’t make them unhealthy. There’s also not a way to guarantee that your food has no pesticides (it’s permissible under the organic label in some conditions) unless you grow it yourself.

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            Hell studies show that frozen and then cooked food is the easiest to absorb nutrients from so in a sense it’s even healthier.

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        Oh boy, if you really think these are healthly I have bad news for you… Sure there are worst options around, but that still counts as processed food on my book!

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          so, respectfully, what the absolute fuck are you on about? do you only eat roots you dig up in the forest?

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              Nutri-Score A

              Very good nutritional quality

              The science on “ultra-processed” foods is scattered because even dietitians can’t agree on what an ultra-processed food is, or agree on what exactly it is that’s so harmful about it. If it’s high sugar and salt then the processing has fuck all to do with it. If it’s specific preservatives then processing has fuck all to do with it, it’s those specific things that are bad.

              Until it’s something other than vibes-based, it’s a bad idea to exclude affordable vegetables or fruit from your diet solely because they’re processed.

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                For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and “improve”. Nothing bad about frozen basic ingredients that arent cooked. Also in my country fresh veggies and fruit are cheaper than frozen ones.

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                  For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and “improve”.

                  Which is why it’s a bad, wobbly standard to use. Lactofermented vegetables are incredibly healthy for the gut microbiome, but would fall under this processed label. Processing isn’t inherently bad, and neither is preserving.

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              so clearly you didn’t read your own link, because that is literally based on the fact that it contains glucose, that is the ONLY reason it’s classed as ultra-processed.

              you cannot seriously look at this and conclude it’s processed, there’s no way in hell you’re here in good faith and i very much suspect your upvotes are fake.

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            Maybe its a cultural thing, but mostly fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, fresh meat, fresh fish… I think you got the idea. Frozen veggies are good too (if not pre-cooked or seasoned).

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              Yeah, but these frozen meals aren’t much more processed than frozen veggies, at least the good ones. Can be a little pricey for what you get though.

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                I think you’re right about that. They’re just frozen veggies mixed together with chopped meat. The main thing I’d look at is how much salt they dump into these things.

                Spices wouldn’t be fresh, either, but that’s more of a taste issue than health issue.

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      The way to go IMO. I’m on a 20-year streak in not having a car. When I pick a new place to live, walkability to a good grocery store is one of my primary considerations. I only shop for one, so lugging groceries is no big deal, and I enjoy the extra exercise.

      Throughout my life I’ve watched people spend all their money on conveniences and degrade physically, mentally, and financially as a result. Why not situate yourself for long-term success from the get-go? I wish more people were conscientious of the energy balance required to sustain a healthy life and best aligns with the environmental impacts we’ve wrought upon ourselves.

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        I just broke my 12 year streak of not having a car. I took a job as a city bus driver. Whaddya do when you’re supposed to run the first bus out of the garage and it’s too snowy to bike? I feel like a failure and a jerk. But I am trying to move close to the depot, so hopefully I could walk.

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          That sucks, but we gotta do what we gotta do. I don’t begrudge anyone for adapting to the environments society has established. Sticking to ideals is a rarity when things are structured to push us toward consumptive lifestyles. So, I’d not feel like a jerk; heck, just having a modicum of awareness is a step in the right direction.

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      I live less than a kilometer from a grocery store but it takes me a half hour to walk there because I’m in a subdivision and there’s no direct sidewalk.

      I used to be able to cut across yards but somebody put up a fence to stop that.

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      The gym is such a waste of energy. With proper form you can get that workout doing useful things. For charity if nothing else.

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    I hate cars and love walkable cities as much as the next guy in this community, but this comparison is just nonsense.

    If the only thing you do and are comparing is 4 trips a month to the grocery store that is in walkable distance you are not spending $200 a month on gas and probably also less on maintenance and stuff. And if you are only doing that you also don’t need the newest and best car.

    I feel like this type of bad faith analogies just hurts the message.

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    Buy used 110cc motorbike for 250-300USD

    pay 30USD a month for fuel because 160mpg

    flop over in the middle of traffic because the 25kg bag of rice you’re balancing between your legs shifts

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      My pedal bike can equip pannier carriers - doesn’t something like that exist for motorbikes too?

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        Yes, but the rack is already being used to hold the rest of your groceries, family of 5, dog, refrigerator, and all the other things car owners claim they absolutely need a car to transport.

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      Buy used 110cc motorbike for 250-300USD for faster commute

      pay 30USD a month for fuel because 160mpg

      get groceries delivered

      take tram if it rains or if you feel like it

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        Hey there, Rice-a-Roni - there are 8 billion other people in the world, so it’s pretty bold and exceedingly stupid to speak for all of them. In fact, I’ll bet there are literally a billion people in the world that buy their rice 25kg at a time. I know it is very common in Hawaiian households, I’d guess that there are more Hawaiians buying 25kg bags of rice than there are Hawaiians buying 1 kg bags.

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          Dunno why you needed to say ‘Rice-a-Roni’, but I think it’s not stupid to be baffled at buying 25 kg of rice.

          Most I see is 1 kg bags.

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            Right - and my point was that the whole rest of the world doesn’t see or experience life in precisely the same way that you do. It is only stupid to make broad generalizations about the whole rest of the world from your tiny little corner of it.

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              The same also applies in your way, though. Realise that not everybody buys 25 kg bags. Sure, I learnt something new today. But I think it’s good to keep in mind that the world is a nice varied place where not everyone does the same.

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                You’re the one that literally said “Which customer buys 25 kg of rice at once? Literally nobody.”

                Your attempts at backtracking don’t work when the only thing someone needs to do to refute what you’re saying is looking up.

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        1. That’s what the average SEA eats in like 2 days. Its the big bags at any grocery store

        2. Correct. I have not been riding motorbikes since before I could walk, so I cannot do what the locals do. Yet.

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          That’s what the average SEA eats in like 2 days. Its the big bags at any grocery store

          No the fuck we don’t. A 5kg bag lasts an entire week for a family of four adults

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              Slight

              I’ll say… 25kg in two days is over 42k calories per day. Either south east Asians are literal human machines that do the hardest physical work imaginable or they’re all fatter than OP’s mom.

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          The average south east Asian eats that much? I find that hard to believe. Maybe you mean 2.5 kg? Then I could see that being plausible for a household of four, spread over a week.

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        That’s roughly two bags at Costco. Way more than my wife and I would buy for just us, but I could see larger families reasonably buying that much.

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        I am looking for places to buy 50 lb sacks of people grain, especially barley. Feed stores sell them but idk what chemicals they use. 20 bucks at feed stores for ag.

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            What I hate is stores that give the price per unit in ounces. Especially when it is in pounds elsewhere, like the more expensive one the price will be in ounces so then you have to multiply times 16 in the store in your head it is super annoying.

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              Where I am they also use different units. Could be could be 100g, could be 1kg. But since, well, you know, the metric system, all you have to do is move the decimal point to multiply or divide by 10.

              Is that ounces as in mass or ounces as in volume? Or is it both.

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                Haha, either liquid or dry ounces, fun to do the dividing into 128 for gallons too but 16 is a pint and 32 a quart and 4 to a gallon so it is easier unless the chiseling companies downsized their products to 12 oz from 16.

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      “I would like to live in a carless society”

      v

      “I would like somewhere to park my car”

      is a real dichotomy that spans both issues.

      A great example is my own hometown of Houston, a city famous for its lack of zoning.

      By 1978, the city had gutted itself in order to clear space for more parking. It took decades to reverse that mistake and rebuild the interior of the city. A big part of that was the introduction of (still very modest) bus and light rail.

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        Still a ton of parking spots I see, could’ve been replaced by bicycle racks, apartments, and parks.

        The parking spots could have gone underground.

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          There’s a series of underground shops and restaurants in downtown Houston, connected by tunnels. Great way for someone working downtown to walk to lunch when it’s too hot to go outside.

          There is some underground parking on the edge of downtown.

          With that said, it’s actually very difficult to build underground in Houston because of the high water table.

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          could’ve been replaced by bicycle racks, apartments, and parks.

          We did actually have a ton of public racks and even rental bikes installed under Mayors White and Parker. Turner kinda neglected them. Then, over the last year, John Whitmire tore them all out again.

          I’ll also note that the Main Street light rail has created a boom in apartment housing along its length. South of downtown was basically a slum until the rail was installed. Now it’s a bunch of 8+ story apartments and a few high rises with shopping/restaurants on the first floor.

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            Then I hope Whitmire gets ran over by a car. Hope he plucks the sour fruits of his own policies.

            Reading more on him and he sounds like an ass. No AC for inmates in hot summers… then he’s a criminal himself for making people die. Maybe he should undergo a lack of AC himself.

            He also seems awfully willing to lock people up, instead of actually making the situation better by ending his own life.

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    here it’s more like this:

    don’t own a car no store in reach ??? starve

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    This is assuming you live in a walkable town or neighborhood. I remember a reddit post (can’t find it anymore) of a guy trying to walk less than 2 miles to an appointment in Orlando. He followed Google Maps directions down the shoulder of a highway that led to a dead-end, backtracked, tried again, and finally made almost all the way to his destination, which was on the opposite side of a 6-lane highway Google wanted him to cross.

    I’ve only ever visited the theme parks in Orlando, but I experienced one intersection I had to share with cars. I spent every walk sign waiting for cars making a turn to yield. Even though I had the right of way, literally none of them did, until I finally had to run across the street because the cars at the red light, who could see I was 1/3 through the intersection, floored it the second their light turned green. Sure, fuck all of those car-brained drivers who refuse to yield to pedestrians, but also fuck that city for not fining drivers for shitty behavior, or at least changing their traffic lights so all cars have red lights when pedestrians have the walk sign.

    Anyway, point is, personal choices are important, but they can’t overcome the systemic issues created by car culture without collective action. And Orlando sucks ass.

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      Congrate, your first sentence figured it out.

      Maybe you just got here but bud I’m getting so tired of people assuming that people like the person in the post aren’t also the same people screaming for better infrastructure so we can ditch this high dependence on cars. We know that not everywhere is like this and that’s why we also have a MOUNTAIN of examples of even the shittiest places in the US, but also all over the world, doing things to build better for not that much money.

      The entire point of the post is to show that people who fight against that change don’t have much of an argument. We know how things are but they don’t need to be like forever. Nearly every city used to be a 15min city before the car and then 50-100 years ago we fucked it all up(because of bribes from car manufacturers) and kept that shit train rolling.

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        Yeah, that would be a great point if the entire post wasn’t a 4Channer framing this as personal choices and not systemic ones. The dudes not talking about how the car industry destroyed railcars, he’s dunking on people who drive to the grocery store, and the implication is clearly, “everyone can and should do this,” which is bullshit.

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          Except there are places where that’s true. There are also people in places with the same mindset who buy trucks for twice the price of a reasonable hatchback and act like the extra $30k+ is less than occasionally renting a U-Haul.

          You not being smart doesn’t diminish my point.

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            Except there are places where that’s true. There are also people in places with the same mindset who buy trucks for twice the price of a reasonable hatchback…

            Yeah, I never said this wasn’t true, but again, none of that is in the fucking post. The dude’s not making a nuanced point about people who live in walkable areas but buy large trucks over sensible hatchbacks. He’s making a sweeping statement about how people who don’t walk to the grocery store are idiots, but America has the walking score of a developing nation; if you live somewhere where you can walk to the grocery store, you’re breathing rarefied air, and calling other people stupid for driving is entitled.

            Like, what are you so pissy about? That I was responding to the content of the post instead of the points you assume the 4Channer would make, but didn’t? OK buddy, in the future, I’ll try to infer what you presume the OP’s hidden beliefs are and tailor my comment to that. Seems reasonable.

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              So you get to have all the nuance but they don’t? Ok, buddy.

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                The fuck are you talking about? Yeah, they don’t get to have the nuance; it’s not in the fucking post. It’s a pithy 50ish words about how they’re so much smarter than other people for not driving to the grocery store. I pointed out the reality is more nuanced than that for most people, and your whole response has been, “yeah, well, they probably know that, so why don’t just act like their response is nuanced?” To which the answer continues to be, “Because that’s not what they fucking said, are you high?”

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                  Wahh wahh oh my god, dude. Congrats, you showed up and started running your mouth like you had access to special information and were teaching people that there are places without good infrastructure. We know this already, and I even showed you other extremely related examples.

                  Yes, you’re a very special smarty-pants thank you for this wonderful and definitely new take that will totally help and isn’t at all the same old tired shit that constantly bloats the discussion.

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      The whole “turn right on red” in north America baffles me as a European.

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        Oh, this wasn’t even a right on red. The green light for cars was lined up with the walk sign for pedestrians going rhe same direction. In a situation like that, when a car with a green light needs to turn through the crosswalk, they are supposed to yield to any pedestrian crossing at that time, but apparently the people of Orlando have so much car entitlement that they don’t even slow down when a pedestrian is standing in the middle of the crosswalk trying to complete a legal crossing.

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        American here, this is just as stupid and dangerous as it sounds. The idea is that it’s very easy to check for pedestrians before turning but literally almost no one even looks. Even if the crosswalk light is lit they don’t notice and just plow right through.

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          Id argue the idea is that its easy to check for cars as you only need 1 lane of traffic. Traffic engineers don’t really consider the needs and safety of pedestrians, they just do the bare minimum to accommodate them. And the engineers that do try to care about pedestrians are told things like “well thats not how its done in this book from the 50s” or “that would reduce our throughput by 5% meaning we’d need to invest in another car lane”

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        I know this is fuckcars, but I personally I think it makes sense. Our brothers in Lithuania are also doing it (tbf there needs to be a specific sign next to the light saying you can do it).

        The less people spend waiting on pointless traffic lights, the faster cars get to their destination, the less cars there are on the street. At least that’s how I view it.

        All of this is of course keeping in mind to always yield to a pedestrian.

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    I lived next to a little natural grocery for a few years. Prices were about 20% higher than the ordinary grocery and maybe double what I’d pay at Costco. At first I was resistant because they seemed to be overcharging so much. Overtime I talked to the employees and realized the savings I made on time and not needing a car more than made up for the higher price. Plus they had to keep prices high because shoplifting was very common.

    I started figuring my time and car expenses into future shopping trips and now I don’t mind paying a bit more for the local co-op.

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    Here on Copenhagen:

    • Buy a bicycle for 4000 dkk.
    • Bike less than 1 km to arrive at Netto/Rema 1000/lidl/Coop 365.
    • Buy a kanelsnegle for 8 dkk.
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    Ok let’s flip this to cherry pick my example.

    Don’t need a car most of life, get to 40 and upskill and become a software engineer. Job market is terrible due to saturation and I suck at interviews so can only take a job 40 miles away from home.

    No problem.exe. I can take 2.5-3 hour commute each way 5 days a week.

    Fast forward a few months and I’m just dead on my feet, do nothing but go to work come home goto bed get up and repeat.

    Decide this can’t continue. Can’t afford to move to the bougie town where I work so decide I need a car finally.

    Save 12-15 hours per week and it’s not too much more expensive than taking a Metrolink and a train to work with 30 mins of walking too. Plus all the meals you need to eat out of the house when you’re out for 14 hours in a day.

    On my days off I’ll take the tram 20 miles each way to go rock climbing but some people actually do need cars and they shouldn’t be made to feel bad for it.

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      Also the sunk cost of the car’s capital goes toward all the other things you’ll use your car for, like leisure time and driving other humans around. Also the practicality of walking to get groceries decreases as you gain more mouths to feed.

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        I’ve got a family of four, soon to be five. There’s no way I could possibly do all my grocery shopping on foot. It’s just too much to carry. I’d have to bring a wheelbarrow, and all the ice cream would melt.

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        It’s also not super practical to walk to get groceries if you live in a hot climate.

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    Let green text guy live his own definition of an ideal life, but it would be a pretty pathetic life for me if the only place I ever had to go was the grocery store.

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      If you live in a place where walking to the grocery store is feasible, chances are pretty good that you can get to your job and most other important places via sidewalk, bicycle or public transport.

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        But I like traveling. My boyfriend is in arizona, and my two favorite beaches are in California 2 hours apart from each other. I like to drive and travel. Some people prefer car-free life for its simplicity & economy, but freedom & travel define my whole life.

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          A month ago, I took a bus to a beach and was literally the only person at that beach. You get much greater freedom when public transit goes everywhere.

          But also cars aren’t the epitome of individual transport, lightweight motorbikes are. Last week I saw a mountain and was like “there’s farms up there, I can probably ride to the top”, and then I did.

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    This is also coincidentally how the math works on big box stores.

    • Big box parking lot/strip mall opens
    • Save $100 on groceries annually
    • Pay $150 extra in taxes and gas to maintain and drive on an additional 10 miles of road
    • Local options shut down, prices go up, and it takes 5 extra minutes to get to box store with increased traffic.
    • Box store eventually closes due to not being in suburb anyway.
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      More like box store closes to cash in on real estate sale and then opens new location just a few blocks down the road on the outskirts. Rinse and repeat.

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    If it weren’t for weather I wouldn’t have a car. Sure, 90 minutes by ebike is a serious time commitment, but I’d save so much money a year it makes sense as a part time job.

    But fuck riding a bike on ice for two months lol

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      I haven’t had a car for two years now. Well technically i had the car i use for my job, but i never use that in my free time. While public transportation is pretty good here, i still live close to nowhere and i have to get to the next bus stop. Ebikes are fantastic but they do have their limits. Gettig groceries on a nice sunday morning, i can go on a 90min trip without any roads and no cars and a view that would blow most people’s mind. But a rainy Thursday evening in the cold, there are just days that i’m not in the mood for that.

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        Ice isn’t the worst IMO, it’s the sloshy zero degree sludge, ice cold rain and biting wind.

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          you don’t want to die? that doesn’t sound like weather is what matters to you, that sounds like safety from traffic is what matters.

          and if you’re talking about slipping on ice, uh… studded tyres exist.

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            It’s a pretty hilly commute. Besides the ever present threat of being murdered in traffic (and this is a rural area, so traffic actually is a lesser concern), I have to contend with going up and down half a dozen steep slopes.

            On ice in the dark.

            I might just wreck my bike and freeze to death.

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              studded tyres make biking on ice feel like biking on asphalt, and you can buy very good rechargable LED lamps. I had a teacher who biked ~20km in the winter, through rural areas and during the dark since it becomes night at 17:00.

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                I have lights and ride in the dark already.

                But we’re talking 11pm, if I get in a bad accident on a dark farm-to-market road I’ll just die. No one will see or hear me.

                Also 20km is only 12.4 miles.

                And I outright don’t believe riding on a steep icy hill with studs is like riding on asphalt. I’m sure it’s doable, I just don’t believe it’s easy or safe.

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        Does it really? I’d think they would help, but actually a non-issue? I’m skeptical.

        Also getting sprayed by a passing asshole car showering me with slush+sand+road salt doesn’t sound great either.

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          Personal experience, yes. I’ve biked trails in all conditions and only had any trouble on one of them. It had snowed a bunch, thawed, froze again, and then rained. I could still generally bike around and never fell, but didn’t have enough traction for the short steep climbs found on trails.

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              Some people in this community are nuts. They expect people to bike 15-20 miles though snowy mountains carrying a weeks worth of breakfast, lunch, and dinners.

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              I often choose to ride my bike in the winter on super icy (side roads, no traffic) it’s fun for recreational purposes if you’re into that. On a commute or something else, i really wouldn’t recommend.

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          Physically impossible in the north outside of cities and even then not often possible. What with snow and all. And it is 6 months here.

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            Yeah I lived a car-free life when I lived in Seattle, working on Magnolia Hill, living on Capitol Hill. That was doable year round. The midwestern flyover states I grew up and live in, tho, no it’s not workable. In the North there’s snow for months, in the South we have monsoon season where it rains for weeks, in the summer heat index gets above 110 regularly and these people don’t plant shade trees. Plus nearest grocery stores are miles away (I live downtown in a capital city).

            Even though I work a few blocks from my home, I can’t live car free here without significant ride-sharing expenses (the bus system is a joke and only runs part of the day, grocery shopping would eat an entire day of my week that way), if I did that I couldn’t go on roadtrips on weekends either, unless I rented a car - and all that is more expensive than my (20k, not 40k) car.

            But I do love this community and it’s coastal approach to shaming people who rely on cars… take the tram or train, lmao

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              I do not use my car for weeks at a time, but I need one in the country especially, also in the city when there.

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        Studded tires are illegal on public roads where I live (i’m pretty confident it applies to bikes too), but i do fine with fat tires. My chain slips if its actively snowing though and for some reason my bolts loosen rather quickly in winter.

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      I ride a bike in winter, though admittedly it’s in a city where frequent plowing and ambient heat make it less of an issue. Funny thing is, I bought my bike in December.

      I wear thick winter gear, including gloves, socks, and mask. If I drove, I’d want that sort of gear as soon as I exit my car at the parking lot, so I’d rather just have that all on beforehand and be warm the whole way.

      It’s also just not that snowy/icy around here anymore. You might get it for a few days but otherwise it’s just cold and dry.