In a democracy, I don’t see how their vote really matters less. Plus it’ll help improve prisons perhaps.
Even if not while they are in prison, definitely once they have served their time. Absolute bullshit that you can never vote again once you’ve done time. (Federal crimes I mean)
This isn’t remotely unpopular among most people on the Fediverse I think.
BuT WhaT iF tHey VOTe To FRee aLL pRiSONErs???
And to your second point: if people were trying to improve prisons, they wouldn’t be so damn lucrative
They don’t have the right proportion to do that. And if they did, then maybe it would actually be a valid vote
But if you let prisoners vote, you’d have to let the black ones vote too. And if you did that, there’d be next to no point in locking them up in the first place.
Not true! You’d still have the benefit of slave labor!
True enough. Round em’ up boys!
Nex you let women vote. You never know. Wait can women vote in america? How progressive
I’ll go one further, voting should be mandatory, punishable by a fine. The ballot should also have “none of the above” as an option.
I don’t know, I’m more of the opinion that everyone should do a competence test or something before they are even allowed to vote.
None of the above is where you fill in a name
No! If None Of The Above wins the election, we simply go without a president for four years, and the parties think long and hard about how to find a candidate that’s better than literal empty space
Based. Spoiling the ballot is also common but in this case, a “none” box would make sense too
Literaly brasil (also for prisioners voting)
Australia too, I believe.
I like the theory, but the practice is that you can force people to vote but not to be informed. People can just show up and push the button on the top.
It also means you gotta decide what to do when every election is won by “none of the above”.
And if none of the above wins, the office should be left vacant for a term.
A random person will be chosen
That’s worse.
That’s what you get for voting None
I agree with this, except that the punishment should be a short stay in jail, like maybe as long as a week for repeat offenses. That way it serves as a deterent and being wealthy won’t make it worth it.
That’s a bit much. Maybe a day of community service? 🤣
Who better and more motivated to effect the law than those who have been wronged by it?
There would have to be a ton of work involved to prevent the prisons (being private entities) from attempting to control\influence the votes.
The vast majority of prisons are not private
I’m not sure I follow. The way I read this was “we should remove constitutional rights from certain people because of the outsized influence certain companies might have on them.” Was that the correct way to read this comment? If so, do you also advocate for the abolition of social media, print journalism, radio, any kind of advertisement, any gathering, and television?
Interesting strawman you have there.
My point is simply that privacy is not easy to come by in a prison and steps must be taken to ensure votes are truly private and prevent coercion of the prisoners.
Then the way I read that was wrong, which is why I asked. Interesting way to straw man my honest question!
You’re correct, but I don’t think this is an actually unpopular opinion, is it?
If you live in the United States, I think think answer to that depends on which state you live in.
This is one of those posts that make me think “but that’s already how it works” and then I remember “oh right, America”.
In the UK prisoners cannot vote :(
I can’t remember where I heard this originally, but I subscribe to the belief that you need to maintain the rights of criminals (like voting) to prevent tyranny.
Because if being labeled a criminal is enough to remove your rights, a corrupt government need only declare you one to take your rights away.
It used to be criminal in some parts of the USA for black and white people to intermarry, for example. Imagine losing your right to vote because of who you married.
It was Nelson Mandela:
A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.
To be honest I was shocked when I learned about this stripping of rights when you are imprisoned in the US. It is literally a tool of tyranny to lock people up in order to silence them.
Woah so that’s where jkr stole that quote from always thought dumbledore had really good quotes and now i know jkr must’ve stolen most of em .
I don’t think there’s anything at all original in JKR works. Mashing a bunch of fantasy tropes together into an interesting world seems to have worked though. At least, the films are decent.
I like the books but yeah there definetly is massive issues that the movies fixed like harry breaking the fucking wand aside from that i’d say the books are on par if not better than the movies .
In Canada voting is considered a Charter Right (or basic level of freedom nessisary to preserving human dignity and right of participation in society). While I keep pushing for voting reform regarding the first past the post system it’s definitely something I think we got right. Everyone should decide what sort of society we live in including those who have run afoul of it in some way or another.
Bruh, the democracy in my country is a joke and even we have votes on prisons, what the hell? I thought this was standard.
I thought this was standard.
I think a lot of Americans don’t share that belief.
The War On
Black PeopleDrugs created a generation of people entirely fine with the idea that not only do prisoners not have rights, they deserve to suffer out of prison as well.
