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    What’s fun is the moment he realized it was Trump. He went from Biden should be removed because mentally unfit, to well Trump just misspoke

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      Prime example of a pot… cough cough cough hack hack cough haaaack cough cough cough… pot calling… haack haaack… black. Huuaaah. It’s just allergies.

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        Not directly related beyond steaming and podcasting apparently rotting people’s brains, but I just watched a stream where a guy tried to cough up a lung and then said “it’s not allergies, chat, it’s just hay fever”

        Like, damn bro. You’re about to get clowned on by thirteen year olds with more medical knowledge than you.

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          In case I’m not the only one who didn’t know what hay fever is:

          Hay fever is the common name for allergic rhinitis.

          Hay fever is caused by the nose and/or eyes coming into contact with environmental allergens, such as pollens (grasses, weeds or trees), dust mite, moulds and animal dander.

          Fuckin lmao

          (E: forgot the link)

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    There’s no mistake. It’s his intent to blast Biden, not to speak the truth. He 100% achieved his goal.

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      If you read the article, it says he was corrected and acknowledged the mistake.

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        He did not acknowledge the logical conclusion that everything he said about Biden being unfit should then in theory be applied to Trump. No, Trump just “fucked up”.

        If read the article critically, you would not accept such a lazy correction.

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          I actually watched the podcast for the context of this article. You’re right, he doesn’t apply the same scrutiny towards Trump. Yet, he does acknowledge it and they showed the clip of Trump’s idiotic speech. They also laugh at him, but then move on. Anyone that actually watches the podcast, the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted. The only side that has a real opinion swaying agenda is the media side. A lot of people just read headlines and move on. Those people would never even be aware of the correction.

          Also, I don’t care. I know Joe Rogan has different political views than I do and that doesn’t stop me from seeing him as a person that is entitled to his own views. I can still respect him for his work in comedy, mma and for his podcast. I haven’t watched a full one in a while, but he has some good ones with interesting people. He also has a way of interviewing people that seems mich more real than most other formats. He just shoots the shit with people and it doesn’t feel like some scripted intentional message they’re trying to put out.

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            the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted.

            They would have seen a recantion, yes, but nothing about either saying why he just ranted about Biden’s mental fitness with appropriate evidence OR spend some significant time retracting each adjective that he applied to Biden on false information.

            He is fucking broadcasting. Stop treating him like a buddy sitting on your couch. He either knows what he is doing, or he has no respect for the power of having a large audience that can internalize messages on his word.

            I believe your comment shows a lack of awareness of how people get piped to fascist viewpoints. To be clear, I do not think Rogen is intentionally leading people there, but being an idiot is not a great shield.

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            How could he not acknowledge it? They played the clip… He was proven incorrect on the air. The issue is that he was using the statement as a reason Biden should be removed, but for Trump it was just a mistake.

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                That’s also why Joe Rogans stupid conspiracy theories and political bias can be dangerous, sometimes. Stupid people will believe every word like he knows what he’s talking about.

                I don’t hate him or think he’s evil, either, fwiw. He’s just a dumb out of touch rich guy with too many gullible fans.

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              I don’t know about evil, but he has a platform with a huge amount of influence which he uses to push a conservative viewpoint. That, at the very least, makes him immoral.

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              I don’t understand why people act like he’s the fucking devil. Like, you can think he’s a dumbass, but some people seem to want to act like he’s legitimately evil.

              Here, don’t run and hide from your ignorance, let it shine.

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        You are mistaken in thinking that changes anything.

        Fascists only need to blast their message. Any incorrectness or recanting is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential.

        When the nazis roll over the government and burn it all down, I swear, there’ll be this 10% subset of people befuddled that this could be happening after all of the recanting. It doesn’t matter. Don’t let them convince you it matters.

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          Like blasting headlines about how shitty Joe Rogan is? I’ve seen a ton of them and pretty much all of them are overblown, taken out of context or misleading. Media knows you guys love to hate him, that’s why they put out these pieces in the first place.

          Also, I fail to see how someone wanting to put down Biden is bad. People are entitled to their opinions and views, even if they aren’t what you agree with. I seriously doubt Joe Rogan is plotting to make America fascist. Biden is not without his faults as well. His main selling point is that he isn’t Trump.

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              If you don’t see the hypocrisy in your own words, then your conclusion doesn’t mean much to me.

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                  Yeah totally, one supports your opinion and the other does not.

                  Just curious, but why do you think they are different? It’s real easy to just say “no you’re wrong”.

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    Maybe Rogan needs a new, younger, fresher host on that show.

    Rogan should step down as we see his mental facilities are in decline.

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    I seen a bit of this interview yesterday. The article doesn’t cover it all. As soon as these 2 knuckleheads started spewing airports and it was Biden that said this I was confused as this was something Trump said a few years back. Didn’t they know? They ride the media for skewing things and they weren’t even aware of how Trump was called out in the same media for this some time back.

    Below this fellow breaks down the double standard in more detail than the article does. It covers how Rogan and his Guest said no one should listen to Biden and how he is unfit for office due to this airport thing. Then when the producer points out to Rogan that Biden is referring to what Trump previously said, it wasn’t a big deal all of a sudden to Rogan and the guest.

    Trump gets a “whoopsie doodle” pass and Trump is still the better choice in his mind I’m sure. Not saying Biden is a gem of a rose but with how hard the right are trying to pin anything on Biden and failing, Trump is still a rotten to the core choice for endless reasons.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1LANk2O4oh/?igsh=MWYwMDF5YXk0ZjJnNw==

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      Its always unfalsifiable. They’re right no matter their position, $100 million > objective reality any day /s

      Thats why estoppel in the legal system and the legal system in general are Trump’s kryptonite, even if it looks like hes constantly usurping it. Make him pin down himself and he just can’t do it so he loses cuz he can’t stop himself from hedging or being sure what he says is going to be universally adored by those he “represents”

      Also, like those Targets that let you steal until its a felony and both of you hit the big time 🎬

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      I miss the days when he was doing stand up and straight up telling people “I’m an idiot. Please don’t take me seriously.” It definitely is better than now, where he is still an idiot but people do take him seriously.

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        Nah fuck that. That was always his trick, he doesn’t actually think he’s an idiot, it’s just his get out of jail card.

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        His stand up was atrocious, I hate even listen to him talk about comedy and comedians because it’d be like me talking about nuclear physics and how our brains work.

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          You don’t like his stand-up? You don’t like to hear about almond nipples and Kim Kardashian while he’s hunched over a stool?

          In all seriousness, I was so disappointed in his stand up when I was a fan. For a guy that talks to so many people about so many different topics, his stand up was so boring.

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        I miss when he was doing standup, too, because he sucked at it so nobody was posting his clips

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      The years of ped abuse and blows to the head from sparring at work. Never was a smart guy, but that sure didn’t help.

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      I also hate how he’s appropriated the acronym “JRE” from programming to a right wing conspiracy show. Say what you want about Java but it doesn’t deserve this.

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      I can’t believe I used to listen to him lol he got me with the scientist interviews… Like not the Egyptian aliens types, but people like Neil Degrass Tyson.

      Then I listened enough to realize he’s a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow, kinda like Bill Maher. Yeah yeah Bill you’re tolerant of “the gays” and you like weed, but he’s center right if anything, again pretending he’s on the left for his ratings.

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        I think if you’re a right winger who smokes weed, that makes you a libertarian, not a liberal.

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          If you think Libertarians and Republicans aren’t the same thing, you’re smoking too much weed.

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          he’s a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow

          I think you miss interpreted this line.

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            You know there’s a big difference between a liberal and libertarian, right?

            Libertarian - an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.

            Liberal - a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

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              Ok, I’ll spell it out for you. Joe Rogan is the one claiming to be a liberal or at the very least, a centrist. Not me and not the person you were originally replying to. Everyone here knows Joe Rogan is a libertarian.

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                Oh, thank you so much. I don’t follow the whole Joe Rogan thing so I wasn’t familiar with him claiming to be a liberal. I thought he stuck to the conservative/libertarian thing and wasn’t trying to convince people he was something else. Thanks! TIL

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    hmm its almost like joe rogan is an aboslute idiot and the real life embodiment of a thumb-thumb from spykids

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    I keep getting videos of Rogan pushed on YouTube, while I constantly mark them as “not interested” of report them as “fake news”. He’s like a horrible decease you never can get rid of.

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          I made a typo because I’m dyslectic and I got corrected. The sentence was “he is like a disease-” and your response is “wishful thinking”? So, you wish he was like a disease? I kinda feel like he already is, so your wish came through. But to what you meant, it’s really horrible to have a disease, wishing that onto the people you oppose makes you as bad as they are. I just wish he would see the harm he does, he would see the world as it really is instead of his vision which is through very polarized glasses, and I wish he would stop spreading his BS.

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            I think they meant that your typo: “decease” is the wishful thinking. As in they wish he was deceased.

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      Your mistake is interacting with them at all.

      The algorithms know that people who dislike something enough to click a button will be primed to potentially do something like hate-watch or open the video to leave a comment, etc so by interacting you are telling it you were emotionally affected.

      The best way to avoid getting suggested videos like this is to completely ignore them. Do not open it, do not click any buttons on it or hover over it long enough for the preview to start.

      Eventually you’ll only see suggestions like that if you are a regular watcher of videos on the opposite end of the spectrum.

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        I’ve been telling YouTube not to recommend these types of videos and it seems to work well with minimal effort on my part. When I look at the homepage, it’s all cooking and math videos, and it’s been that way for years now.

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      Ironically, you marking them as not interested and reporting them probably counts as engagement to show those videos more often.

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        No, YouTube just has an (among other examples) “young white western male” problem.

        The algorithm works hard to jam you into a pigeon hole no matter how abhorrent you find the pigeon shit contained therein.

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          It’s an AI problem. Because the algorithm only looks at things you have done, which after some time include you looking at its recommendations, it cannot see past the bucket it has you in.

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            It’s more about your demographic. Doesn’t matter if you’ve never watched anything even remotely related to JRE, if it’s popular around your local area it’ll be recommended to you.

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        It shouldn’t, I don’t see them anymore by choosing the don’t recommend this channel to me anymore. And I do bij so watch a ton of bjj videos, so anytime some channel pops up that uses his clips it’s recommended to me. Still his own channel and that main clipping channel are things I haven’t seen in a long time.

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    Here’s a direct excerpt from the article OP linked:

    Shortly after the exchange during the show, “The Joe Rogan Experience” producer Jamie Vernon cut in to correct Rogan. Vernon played a clip that Rogan had cited, which was in fact a video of Biden mocking “stable genius” Trump for the comments about airports in the Revolutionary War. Then Vernon ran a video clip of Trump’s “Salute to America” remarks from July 4, 2019, in which the former president praised Americans’ military efforts in the war against Great Britain.

    In the speech, Trump said in part, “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.” (Meanwhile, Fort McHenry was the site of a key American victory over the British navy in the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War.)

    To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

    I dont watch the podcast, but please: let’s exhibit some media literacy while we criticize others for their supposed lack of media literacy.

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      Yeah it’s the “media”. You have the #1 podcast in the world spreading misinformation. Unfunny fuck nugget prick Rogan.

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        It’s only misinformation if it’s consumed as a soundbite devoid of context. And since you’re commenting on my comment highlighting the context, I am legitimately confused as to your issue. If near real-time fact-checking on the very same podcast episode isn’t enough for you: then you may just have an issue with conversational podcasts in general. Stick to printed news.

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      Not happening here, once people get a hate boner for someone or something… they’re full on blind to the nuance.

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    This perfectly showcases the multi tier belief system from Joe and his goons…

    • If Biden says it, he is mentally done
    • If the orange turd says it, the bro slipped
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    This guy right here is the reason some 1,500 jobs were lost from Spotify.

    Talk about overpaid piece of shit.

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        Not the original commenter here but this one doesn’t make a direct connection, but certainly says Spotify blew money poorly that they are trying to make up for, although it mainly mentions cuts in podcasts. This one make s bit more of a correlation saying "The cancellations coincide with jobs cuts at Spotify Monday that eliminated 17% of the streaming company’s staff, or around 1,500 people. Spotify has undertaken several rounds of job cuts since October 2022. " https://fortune.com/2023/12/04/spotify-podcasts-cancelled-heavyweight-stolen/ However you’re not going to find much more than that because it would require a degree of openness and honest that a shitty company isn’t going to give. So it’s hard to say a direct connection doesn’t exist when all the data on that is kept secret by the people who profit from it.

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        Full moron is more than partial moron.

        A partial moron might believe whatever he’s told but then have a “wait a minute, something’s not right here” moment. A full moron doesn’t have that moment and spreads the problem to others.

        Another example would be a “leopards are my face” moment. A partial moron would be surprised that approaching a leopard caused them bodily harm but learn not to do it again. A full moron would sue the leopard but do it again with their child.

        Another example: a partial moron gets directions, sees the distance, thinks a half tank of gas will get them there and back despite prior trips showing the opposite. But they have a Jerry can in the trunk. A full moron wouldn’t have the Jerry can and buys a bigger vehicle with a larger engine because it comes with a bigger gas tank and then blames the liberals when they still run out of gas.

        Partial = recoverable, full = hopeless

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        JustZ is only saying Joe Rogan is a moron. The term “full moron” isn’t a commonly used phrase on its own, but the word “full” followed by an adjective or noun can be used to enhance the descriptive word, such the quote “never go full retard” from the comedy movie “Tropic Thunder”. The context is that an actor played a person with a mental disability in a movie, but they tried too hard, and the performance was uncomfortable for some people.

        I feel compelled to note that I don’t condone using hateful or disparaging language when describing the differently abled.

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          They knew exactly what it meant but were trying to use it as some sort of gotcha.

          You gave a really good explanation though, I’d forgotten it was from Tropic Thunder. We were actually just talking about that movie a few days ago, I should watch it again.

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    It is crazy how large of an audience he has. When he clearly worships Trump, his reaction to finding out it was Trump’s words said enough. Idol worship is an ugly thing.

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      Like many other public figures, his rhetoric matches the need for confirmation bias among his listeners. It’s a business based on telling your contingency what they want to hear. Cletus and Merle are your football fans for team MAGA. They’ll be on your side whether you win or lose.

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      I don’t think he worships Trump. Unless of course you can provide evidence that he’s even in favor of Trump.

      You won’t though.

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    The problem is, none of his listeners will care, he’ll go back to blasting Biden tomorrow and supporting Trump. And his listeners eat it up…

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      Look about how serious he was talking about Biden with his anecdotes and shit and how dismissive he was of Trump. He’s a prick.